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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 14th May 2014, at 09.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir Michael Birt.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – absent on States business
Connétable Alan Simon Crowcroft of St. Helier – en défaut
Connétable Deirdre Wendy Mezbourian of St. Lawrence – en défaut
Connétable Sadie Anthea Rennard of St. Saviour – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.36 a.m.) Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Peter – ill
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Prayers read by the Greffier of the States __________________
Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 8) Law 201- P.33/2014
THE STATES commenced consideration of the principles of the Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 8) Law 201- and rejected a proposition of Deputy Nicholas Basil Le Cornu of St. Helier that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 84, the debate be closed.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 7 CONTRE: 33 ABSTAIN: 0
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
171 Price code: B
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
THE STATES resumed consideration of the principles of the Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 8) Law 201- and rejected a proposition of Deputy Roy George Le Hérissier of St. Saviour that, in accordance with Standing Order 85, the Assembly move to the consideration of the next item on the Order Paper.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 32 ABSTAIN: 0
Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES, having resumed consideration of the Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 8) Law 201-, adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 25 CONTRE: 22 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of St. John Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Article 1.
THE STATES commenced consideration of Article 2 and, adopting an amendment of the Chief Minister, agreed that –
- In paragraph (a), in the substituted paragraph (1), for the words "the Ministers" there should be substituted the words "at least 7 Ministers".
- After paragraph (c) the following paragraph should be added –
"(d) after paragraph (5) there shall be added the following paragraph –
(6) The States may by Regulations amend the minimum number of Ministers in
paragraph (1).' ".
THE STATES, adopting paragraph (1) of an amendment of Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence to Article 2, agreed that in paragraph (c), in the inserted Article 18(3A)(b) after the words "agree and" there should be inserted the words ", within 3 months of being appointed to office under Article 19(7)," upon the States approving the proposal or nomination.".
THE STATES, adopting an amendment of Deputy Tracey Anne Vallois of St. Saviour to Article 2, agreed that in paragraph (c) in the inserted paragraph (3A)(b) after the words "a code of conduct" there should be inserted the words "and a code of practice".
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 34 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A. Breckon
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
THE STATES resumed consideration of Article 2, as amended. THE STATES adopted Article 2, as amended.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 25 CONTRE: 17 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier Senator A. Breckon Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
STATES MINUTES
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)
14th May 2014
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H)
Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
THE STATES commenced consideration of Article 3 and paragraph (1) of an amendment of the Connétable of St. Mary that for Article 3 there should be substituted the following Article –
"3 Article 19 amended
In Article 19 –
(a) for paragraphs (3) to (5) there shall be substituted the following paragraphs –
(3) The Chief Minister designate shall decide and, in accordance with the
prescribed procedures and within the prescribed periods, announce his or her decision as to –
- the elected members to be appointed as Ministers; and
- the Ministerial office to which each of them isto be assigned.
- Before making a decision and announcement under paragraph (3), the Chief Minister designate may, in accordance with the prescribed procedures and within the prescribed periods, propose the establishment or abolition of Ministerial offices.
- A proposal under paragraph (4) –
- must describe the functions of any new Ministerial office; and
- must indicate the Minister to whom the functions of any abolished Ministerial office would be transferred.
(5A) The States may not amend a Chief Minister designate's proposal under
paragraph (4).';
(b) for paragraph (7) there shall be substituted the following paragraph –
(7) The Chief Minister designate and the persons decided by him or her for
appointment as Ministers are appointed to office upon the conclusion of his or her announcement of his or her decision under paragraph (3).'."
Arrangement of public business
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Deputy of St. Ouen , agreed to adjourn the meeting. Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 31 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator B.I. Le Marquand Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy T.A. Vallois (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy A.K.F. Green (H) Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator P.M. Bailhache
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Martin
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Deputy J.P.G. Baker (H)
Deputy of St. Mary
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 15th May 2014 to continue consideration of the Draft States of Jersey (Amendment No. 8) Law 201- (P33/2014) and the outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.29 p.m.
M.N. DE LA HAYE Greffier of the States