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States Minutes 16th September 2014

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 16th September 2014, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir Michael Birt.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – en défaut (défaut raised at 2.57 p.m.) Deputy James Patrick Gorton Baker of St. Helier – en défaut

Deputy Stephen George Luce of St. Martin – excused attendance

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Prayers read by the Greffier of the States __________________

Documents presented or laid

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.) –  P.129/2014. comments.  Amd.Com. Presented: 16th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): third amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.(3)) –  P.129/2014. comments.  Amd.(3) Presented: 16th September 2014.  Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Vote of No Confidence: Minister for Treasury and Resources (P.148/2014) –  P.148/2014. comments.  Com. Presented: 15th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Building a Safer Society: Annual Report 2013.  R.132/2014. Presented: 16th September 2014.

Minister for Home Affairs.

Long-Term Tax Policy.  R.133/2014. Presented: 16th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Code of Conduct for Elected Members: complaints received against Deputy  R.134/2014. N.B. Le Cornu of St. Helier .

Presented: 16th September 2014.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

493   Price code: B

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) –  R.135/2014.

  1. New North Quay Warehouse, St. Helier – lease;
  2. St. Aubin's Tunnels, Mont les Vaux, St. Brelade St. Brelade 's Small-bore Rifle

Club – cancellation of licence; proposed 9 year lease;

  1. St. Saviour 's Bowls Club, Grainville Sports Ground, St. Saviour 's Hill,

St. Saviour – lease;

  1. St. Aubin's Tunnels, Mont les Vaux, St. Brelade Jersey Bobsleigh Club –

proposed 9 year lease;

  1. Field 444A, La Rue du Moulin, St. Martin – proposed sale of part of field.

Presented: 16th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft 2015 Budget.  S.R.12/2014. Presented: 15th September 2014.

Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Draft 2015 Budget (S.R.12/2014) – initial response of the Minister for Treasury and  S.R.12/2014. Resources.  Res. Presented: 16th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Notification of lodged propositions

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.) –  P.129/2014. amendment.  Amd.Amd. Lodged: 15th September 2014.

Deputy J.H. Young of St. Brelade .

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.) – second  P.129/2014. amendment.  Amd.Amd.(2) Lodged: 15th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): second amendment  P.129/2014. (P.129/2014 Amd.(2)) –amendment.  Amd.(2)Amd. Lodged: 15th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): fifth amendment.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 16th September 2014.  Amd.(5) Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Freedom of Information: extension to companies owned or controlled by the States.  P.149/2014. Lodged: 16th September 2014.

Deputy of Grouville .

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn – Springfield Stadium: maintaining amenity space.  P.125/2014. Lodged: 14th July 2014.

Connétable of St. Helier .

Vote of No Confidence: Minister for Treasury and Resources P.148/2014

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier that they had no confidence in the Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 7 CONTRE: 37 ABSTAIN: 5

Senator A. Breckon Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy N.B. Le Cornu (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)


Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator B.I. Le Marquand

Senator F. du H. Le Gresley Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S) Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy T.A. Vallois (S)

Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)


Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. John Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended,  by  the  Chairman  of  the  Privileges  and  Procedures  Committee  in  accordance  with  the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –

22nd September 2014

Draft Budget Statement 2015.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 18th July 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 5th September 2014.  Amd. Deputy J.H. Young of St. Brelade .

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.) –  P.129/2014. comments.  Amd.Com. Presented: 16th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.) –  P.129/2014. amendment.  Amd.Amd. Lodged: 15th September 2014.

Deputy J.H. Young of St. Brelade .

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.) – second  P.129/2014. amendment.  Amd.Amd.(2) Lodged: 15th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): second amendment.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 8th September 2014.  Amd.(2) Deputy J.H. Young of St. Brelade .

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): second amendment  P.129/2014. (P.129/2014 Amd.(2)) –amendment.  Amd.(2)Amd. Lodged: 15th September 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): third amendment.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 8th September 2014.  Amd.(3) Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): third amendment (P.129/2014 Amd.(3)) –  P.129/2014. comments.  Amd.(3) Presented: 16th September 2014.  Com. Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): fourth amendment.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 8th September 2014.  Amd.(4) Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Budget Statement 2015 (P.129/2014): fifth amendment.  P.129/2014. Lodged: 16th September 2014.  Amd.(5) Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Finance (2015 Budget) (Jersey) Law 201-.  P.141/2014. Lodged: 8th August 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Draft Income Tax (Amendment No. 44) (Jersey) Law 201-.  P.130/2014. Lodged: 18th July 2014.

Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Freedom For Life Ministries: grant from Criminal Offences Confiscation Fund.  P.123/2014. Lodged: 25th June 2014.

Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier .

Draft Road Traffic (No. 61) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.140/2014. Lodged: 4th August 2014.

Minister for Transport and Technical Services.

Draft Freedom of Information (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.143/2014. Lodged: 12th August 2014.

Chief Minister.

Draft Social Security (Amendment No. 22) (Jersey) Law 201-.  P.144/2014. Lodged: 12th August 2014.

Minister for Social Security.

Jersey Appointments Commission: appointment of Chairman.  P.147/2014. Lodged: 26th August 2014.

Chief Minister (cannot be debated before 23rd September).

25th November 2014

Draft Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey)  P.97/2014. Regulations 201-.

Lodged: 21st May 2014.

States Employment Board

Draft Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey)  P.97/2014. Regulations 201- (P.97/2014): amendment.  Amd. Lodged: 30th June 2014.

Chief Minister.

Draft Employment of States of Jersey Employees (Amendment No. 7) (Jersey)  P.97/2014. Regulations 201- (P.97/2014): second amendment.  Amd.(2) Lodged: 20th August 2014.

States Employment Board.

Bedrocan BV: possession for treatment purposes – petition.  P.126/2014. Lodged: 16th July 2014.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Bedrocan BV: possession for treatment purposes – petition (P.126/2014) – comments.  P.126/2014. Presented: 9th September 2014.  Com. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Sativex: possession for treatment purposes – petition.  P.127/2014. Lodged: 16th July 2014.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Sativex: possession for treatment purposes – petition (P.127/2014) – comments.  P.127/2014. Presented: 8th September 2014.  Com. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Cannabis: possession of cannabis for treatment purposes – petition.  P.128/2014. Lodged: 16th July 2014.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

Cannabis: possession of cannabis for treatment purposes – petition (P.128/2014) –  P.128/2014. comments.  Com. Presented: 8th September 2014.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Draft Freedom of Information (Jersey Heritage Trust) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.  P.146/2014. Lodged: 14th August 2014.

Chief Minister.

Freedom of Information: extension to companies owned or controlled by the States.  P.149/2014. Lodged: 16th September 2014.

Deputy of Grouville .

THE STATES rose at 4.19 p.m.

M.N. DE LA HAYE, O.B.E. Greffier of the States