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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 19th July 2017, at 09.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir William James Bailhache .

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.54 a.m.)

Senator Sir Philip Martin Bailhache – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.40 a.m.)

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.40 a.m.)

Connétable Stephen William Pallett of St. Brelade – ill

Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.41 a.m.) Deputy Tracey Anne Vallois of St. John – ill

Deputy Richard John Renouf of St. Ouen – en défaut

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Prayers read by the Acting Dean of Jersey __________________

Acting Dean of Jersey – Thanks

The Bailiff , on behalf of all members, thanked the Acting Dean of Jersey, the Reverend Paul Brooks, on the occasion of his last meeting in the Assembly, and paid tribute to the service which he had provided in his capacity as Acting Dean.

Draft Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005 (Appointed Day) Act 201- P.38/2017

THE STATES resumed consideration of the Draft Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005 and, after discussion, adopted a proposition of Deputy Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier that, in accordance with Standing Order 85, the Assembly move to the consideration of the next item on the Order Paper.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 31 CONTRE: 15 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Peter Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 106(1)(b), the following members declared an interest but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate –

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf

Senator Alan John Henry Maclean

Senator Lyndon John Farnham

Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson

Connétable Sadie Anthea Le Sueur -Rennard of St. Saviour Connétable John Edward Le Maistre of Grouville

Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence Deputy Anne Enid Pryke of Trinity

Deputy Stephen George Luce of St. Martin

Deputy Richard John Rondel of St. Helier

Deputy Andrew David Lewis of St. Helier

Deputy Graham John Truscott of St. Brelade .

Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 16) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.45/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 16) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator L.J. Farnham Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 5 and 18 of the Income Support (Jersey) Law 2007, made Regulations entitled the Income Support (Amendment No. 16) (Jersey) Regulations 2017.

Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015: extension to Jersey by Order in Council P.42/2017

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister entitled Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015: extension to Jersey by Order in Council' (P.42/2017), agreed, pursuant to Article 31(1)(b)(i) of the States of Jersey Law 2005, that a request should be made to Her Majesty in Council for the making of an Order in Council that would extend to Jersey, with appropriate modifications and adaptations, the provisions of –

Part 1 and Part 4 of the Counter-Terrorism and Security Act 2015; and
Schedules 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 to the said Act dependent on those Parts,

as summarised in the Report attached to the proposition.

Draft Counter-Terrorism and Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- P.47/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Counter-Terrorism and Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 31 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 4.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Counter-Terrorism and Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Changes in Presidency

The Bailiff retired from the Chamber prior to consideration of the Draft Counter-Terrorism and Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States.

Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Chief Minister made a statement regarding the States Assembly Diversity Forum.

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade , and in accordance with Standing Order 68(3A), agreed to extend the time allowed for questions regarding the contents of the statement of the Chief Minister by up to 15 minutes.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 23 CONTRE: 7 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Peter Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Changes in Presidency

Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during the time allowed for questions regarding the contents of the statement made by the Chief Minister, and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Bailiff .

States of Jersey Police Non-Contributory Pension Scheme: Payment of Widows' Pensions P.44/2017

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the States Employment Board entitled States of Jersey Police Non-Contributory Pension Scheme: Payment of Widows' Pensions' (P.44/2017), agreed that, in respect of Police Officers who after 31st December 1967 remained members of the Police Non-Contributory Pension Scheme, the Chief Minister should be able to award a pension to widows of such Police Officers, taking account of practice existing in regard to the award of such pensions as of that date, and that payment of such pensions should be made out of the Consolidated Fund.

Draft Waste Management (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.46/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Waste Management (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Senator A.K.F. Green

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy S.M. Bree (C)

Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 6.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 1 ABSTAIN: 0 Senator P.F. Routier Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 107, 108 and 110 of the Waste Management (Jersey) Law 2005 and Article 2(2) of the European Union Legislation (Implementation) (Jersey) Law 2014, made Regulations entitled the Waste Management (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Regulations 2017.

Jersey Ethical Care Charter P.48/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier entitled Jersey Ethical Care Charter' (P.48/2017) and adopted an amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (P.48/2017 Amd.(3)) that –

For paragraph (a), there should be substituted the following – "(a) to agree in principle that the Island should adopt a Jersey Ethical Care Charter "the Charter";".
For all the words after "Health and Social Services", there should be substituted the following –

", under Article 39 of the Regulation of Care (Jersey) Law 2014, to consult with the Jersey Care Commission, and with users and providers of care services on –

the terms of the Charter, which will include consideration of the following matters –

The starting point for arranging care will be client need, and not minutes or tasks. Workers will have the freedom to provide appropriate care, and will be given time to talk to their clients.
The time allocated to visits will match the needs of the clients. In general, 15-minute visits will not be used, as they undermine the dignity of the clients.

Homecare workers will be paid for their travel time, their travel costs, and other necessary expenses such as mobile phones.
Visits will be scheduled so that homecare workers are not forced to rush their time with clients or leave their clients early to get to the next one on time.
All homecare workers will be covered by an occupational sick pay scheme to ensure that staff do not feel pressurised to work when they are ill, in order to protect the welfare of their vulnerable clients.
Clients will be allocated the same homecare worker(s) wherever possible.
Zero-hour contracts should not be routinely used in place of permanent contracts. Holiday pay will not be "rolled up" in hourly rates.
Providers will have a clear and accountable procedure for following up staff concerns about their clients' well-being.
All homecare workers will be regularly trained to the necessary standard to provide a good service (at no cost to themselves, and in work time).
Homecare workers will be given the opportunity to regularly meet co-workers to share best practice and limit their isolation.
All homecare workers will be paid at least the Jersey Living Wage (if and when the Jersey Living Wage is adopted by the States).
Any other elements that come out of the consultation referred to above;

and

whether all providers of domiciliary care should be required to sign up to the Charter;".

For paragraphs (c) and (d), there should be substituted the following –

"(c) to request the Minister for Health and Social Services to lodge a proposition with the States by

31st December 2017 to establish a Jersey Care Charter that reflects the outcome of his consultation under paragraph (b).".

THE STATES, having resumed consideration of the proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (P.48/2017), as amended –

agreed in principle that the Island should adopt a Jersey Ethical Care Charter "the Charter";
requested the Minister for Health and Social Services, under Article 39 of the Regulation of Care (Jersey) Law 2014, to consult with the Jersey Care Commission, and with users and providers of care services on –

the terms of the Charter, which would include consideration of the following matters –

The starting point for arranging care would be client need, and not minutes or tasks. Workers would have the freedom to provide appropriate care, and would be given time to talk to their clients.

The time allocated to visits would match the needs of the clients. In general, 15-minute visits would not be used, as they undermined the dignity of the clients.
Homecare workers would be paid for their travel time, their travel costs, and other necessary expenses such as mobile phones.
Visits would be scheduled so that homecare workers were not forced to rush their time with clients or leave their clients early to get to the next one on time.
All homecare workers would be covered by an occupational sick pay scheme to ensure that staff did not feel pressurised to work when they were ill, in order to protect the welfare of their vulnerable clients.
Clients would be allocated the same homecare worker(s) wherever possible.
Zero-hour contracts should not be routinely used in place of permanent contracts. Holiday pay would not be "rolled up" in hourly rates.
Providers would have a clear and accountable procedure for following up staff concerns about their clients' well-being.
All homecare workers would be regularly trained to the necessary standard to provide a good service (at no cost to themselves, and in work time).
Homecare workers would be given the opportunity to regularly meet co-workers to share best practice and limit their isolation.
All homecare workers would be paid at least the Jersey Living Wage (if and when the Jersey Living Wage was adopted by the States).
Any other elements that came out of the consultation referred to above;

and

whether all providers of domiciliary care should be required to sign up to the Charter; and

(c) requested the Minister for Health and Social Services to lodge a proposition with the States by 31st December 2017 to establish a Jersey Care Charter that reflected the outcome of his consultation under paragraph (b).

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Draft Amendment (No. 32) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey P.50/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Amendment (No. 32) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey and, in pursuance of Article 48 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, adopted paragraphs 1 to 4 and 6.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 31 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES adopted paragraph 5.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28 CONTRE: 3 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 48 of the States of Jersey Law 2005, adopted Amendment (No. 32) of the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey.

Draft Armed Forces (Offences and Jurisdiction) (Jersey) Law 201- P.51/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Armed Forces (Offences and Jurisdiction) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 19.

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Armed Forces (Offences and Jurisdiction) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 29

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

CONTRE: 1

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

ABSTAIN: 0

Draft Criminal Procedure (Bail) (Jersey) Law 201- P.52/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Criminal Procedure (Bail) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 30 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 2

Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Mary Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Senator A.J.H. Maclean Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator A.K.F. Green

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 21 and Schedule 1.

THE STATES adopted Article 22 and Schedule 2.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 9 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C)

Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy of St. Mary Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES adopted Articles 23 and 24 and Schedule 3.

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Criminal Procedure (Bail) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 5 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Changes in Presidency

The Bailiff retired from the Chamber prior to consideration of the Draft Criminal Procedure (Bail) (Jersey) Law 201-, and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States. Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment of Law – Annual Charges) (Jersey) Regulations 201- P.53/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment of Law – Annual Charges) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 25 CONTRE: 17 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Bree (C)

Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 25 CONTRE: 15 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Connétable of Trinity Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Bree (C)

Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

THE STATES, in pursuance of Articles 31(6) and 44 of the Control of Housing and Work (Jersey) Law 2012, made Regulations entitled the Control of Housing and Work (Amendment of Law – Annual Charges) (Jersey) Regulations 2017.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 25 CONTRE: 14 ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. Helier Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Peter Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Connétable of St. Martin Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Connétable of St. John Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Deputy of Trinity Deputy S.M. Bree (C)

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy M.J. Norton (B)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Changes in Presidency

Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during consideration of the Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment of Law – Annual Charges) (Jersey) Regulations 201-, and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Bailiff .

THE STATES re-assembled after the lunch adjournment and resumed consideration of the Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment of Law – Annual Charges) (Jersey) Regulations 201- under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff .

Draft Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 2017 (Appointed Day) Act 201- P.58/2017

THE STATES, in pursuance of Article 19 of the Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 2017, made an Act entitled the Commissioner for Standards (Jersey) Law 2017 (Appointed Day) Act 2017.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had informed the Greffier, in accordance with Standing Order 30(2), that the Draft Amendment (No. 33) to the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey would be deferred from the present meeting to 12th September 2017.

Arrangement of public business for future meetings

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence that consideration of the Draft Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005 (Appointed Day) Act 201- be listed to resume on 30th January 2018.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 18 CONTRE: 22 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Senator A.K.F. Green

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy M.J. Norton (B)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES adopted a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade that consideration of the Draft Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005 (Appointed Day) Act 201- be listed to resume on 12th December 2017.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 22 CONTRE: 19 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.F. Routier Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. Helier Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Senator A.K.F. Green

Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy M.J. Norton (B)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade that his proposition entitled Bailiff of Jersey: cessation of dual role and the appointment of an elected Speaker of the States' (P.62/2017) be listed as the first item for consideration on 12th September 2017.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 15 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Senator A.K.F. Green

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C)

Deputy M.J. Norton (B)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf that consideration of the proposition entitled Bailiff of Jersey: cessation of dual role and the appointment of an elected Speaker of the States' (P.62/2017) be deferred to 31st October 2017.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 17 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Martin Deputy of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Bree (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy of St. Mary

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator P.M. Bailhache

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES agreed the following arrangement of public business for future meetings proposed, as amended, by the Chairman of the Privileges and Procedures Committee in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 88(3) –

12th September 2017

States Members' Remuneration Review Body: implementation of pay P.39/2017. recommendations.

Lodged: 19th May 2017.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Draft Education (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Law 201-. P.56/2017. Lodged: 19th June 2017.

Minister for Education.

Draft Amendment (No. 33) to the Standing Orders of the States of Jersey. P.59/2017. Lodged: 21st June 2017.

Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Health and Social Care System: a new governance model. P.60/2017. Lodged: 23rd June 2017.

Council of Ministers.

States of Jersey Budget 2017: allocation of funds for Parish infrastructure projects. P.61/2017. Lodged: 28th June 2017.

Connétable of St. Helier .

Bailiff of Jersey: cessation of dual role and the appointment of an elected Speaker of P.62/2017. the States.

Lodged: 4th July 2017.

Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade .

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child: compliance of draft Laws and P.63/2017. training of States of Jersey employees.

Lodged: 7th July 2017.

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour .

Draft Act annulling the Motor Traffic (Cabs – Fares and Charges) (Jersey) Order 2017. P.64/2017. Lodged: 7th July 2017.

Senator S.C. Ferguson.

Draft Customs and Excise (Amendment No. 8) (Jersey) Law 201-. P.65/2017. Lodged: 12th July 2017.

Minister for Home Affairs.

Draft Road Traffic (No. 63) (Jersey) Regulations 201-. P.67/2017. Lodged: 17th July 2017.

Minister for Infrastructure.

26th September 2017

Brexit Information Report: July 2017 update. R.87/2017. Presented: 18th July 2017.

Minister for External Relations.

(consideration in committee')

10th October 2017

Draft Liquor Licensing (Jersey) Law 201-. P.54/2017. Lodged: 7th June 2017.

Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture.

Draft Liquor Licensing (Jersey) Law 201- (P.54/2017): amendment. P.54/2017. Lodged: 4th July 2017. Amd. Senator Sir P.M. Bailhache .

States' approval for household liquid or solid waste charges prior to implementation. P.57/2017. Lodged: 20th June 2017.

Minister for Infrastructure.

31st October 2017

Draft Public Health and Safety (Rented Dwellings) (Jersey) Law 201-. P.66/2017. Lodged; 17th July 2017.

Minister for the Environment.

12th December 2017

Draft Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005 (Appointed Day) Act 201-. P.38/2017. Lodged: 18th May 2017. (re-issue) Council of Ministers.

Draft Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005 (Appointed Day) Act 201- (P.38/2017): addendum P.38/2017. to report. Add. Presented: 27th June 2017.

Minister for Infrastructure.

THE STATES rose at 4.29 p.m.

DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States