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THE STATES assembled on Monday 27th November 2017, at 2.45 p.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir William James Bailhache .
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Senator Sir Philip Martin Bailhache – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 4.00 p.m.) Connétable Michael John Paddock of St. Ouen – en défaut
Connétable Sadie Anthea Le Sueur -Rennard of St. Saviour – en défaut
Deputy Richard John Rondel of St. Helier – ill
Deputy Richard John Renouf of St. Ouen – excused attendance
Deputy Murray Julian Norton of St. Brelade – en défaut (défaut raised at 3.39 p.m.)
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Prayers read by the Deputy Greffier of the States __________________
Engagement of H.R.H. Prince Henry of Wales and Ms. Meghan Markle – congratulations
The Bailiff advised the Assembly that a message would be sent, on behalf of all members and the people of Jersey, to His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales and Ms. Meghan Markle to congratulate them on the occasion of their engagement and to express the hope that the Island might one day be honoured by a visit from them both.
Subordinate enactments tabled
The following enactments were tabled, namely –
Road Traffic ( St. Helier ) (Amendment No. 33) (Jersey) Order 2017. R&O.121/2017. Minister for Infrastructure.
EU Legislation (Sanctions – Venezuela) (Jersey) Order 2017. R&O.122/2017. Minister for External Relations.
Documents presented
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.) – P.90/2017. amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.Amd.) – comments. Amd.Amd. Presented: 27th November 2017. Com. Council of Ministers.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): second amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(2)) – P.90/2017. comments. Amd.(2). Presented: 27th November 2017. Com. Council of Ministers.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): third amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(3)) – P.90/2017. comments. Amd.(3). Presented: 27th November 2017. Com. Council of Ministers.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fourth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(4)) – P.90/2017. comments. Amd.(4). Presented: 27th November 2017. Com. Council of Ministers.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): seventh amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(7)) – P.90/2017. comments. Amd.(7). Presented: 27th November 2017. Com. Council of Ministers.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): eighth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(8) – P.90/2017. comments. Amd.(8). Presented: 27th November 2017. Com. Council of Ministers.
Short-Term Incapacity Allowance: lower threshold (P.102/2017) – comments. P.102/2017. Presented: 24th November 2017. Com. Minister for Social Security.
Minimum Wage: revocation of Social Security Order (R&O.109/2017) and P.109/2017. amendment of States Act dated 21st April 2010 (P.109/2017) – comments. Com. Presented: 23rd November 2017.
Minister for Social Security.
Minimum Wage: revocation of Social Security Order (R&O.109/2017) and P.109/2017. amendment of States Act dated 21st April 2010 (P.109/2017) – comments. Com.(2) Presented: 24th November 2017.
Council of Ministers.
States of Jersey Complaints Board: findings – complaint by Mr. and Mrs. A. against a R.108/2017. decision of the Minister for Education regarding an appeal in respect of the student Res. grant for their son (Mr. A. (Junior)) – response of the Minister.
Presented: 23rd November 2017.
Minister for Education.
Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – R.123/2017.
- 26 Clos des Sables, St. Brelade , JE3 8HJ – proposed lease;
- acquisition of The Maisonette', 44 Kensington Place, St. Helier .
Presented: 22nd November 2017.
Minister for Infrastructure.
Cyber Security Strategy. R.124/2017. Presented: 23rd November 2017.
Council of Ministers.
Decision Making: Selecting a Site for the Future Hospital (March 2012 – R.125/2017. February 2016).
Presented: 23rd November 2017.
Comptroller and Auditor General.
Draft Budget 2018 Interim Report (Impôts Duties). S.R.10/2017. Presented: 23rd November 2017.
Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Income Forecasting Model. S.R.11/2017. Presented: 27th November 2017.
Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Draft Budget Statement 2018. S.R.12/2017. Presented: 27th November 2017.
Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.
Notification of lodged propositions
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.) – P.90/2017. amendment. Amd.Amd. Lodged: 21st November 2017.
Comité des Connétable s.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.) – second P.90/2017. amendment. Amd. Lodged: 23rd November 2017. Amd.(2). Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fourth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(4)) – P.90/2017. amendment. Amd.(4). Lodged: 22nd November 2017. Amd. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fifth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(5)) – P.90/2017. amendment. Amd.(5). Lodged: 22nd November 2017. Amd. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): sixth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(6)) – P.90/2017. amendment. Amd.(6). Lodged: 22nd November 2017. Amd. Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Finance (2018 Budget) (Jersey) Law 201- (P.98/2017): amendment P.98/2017. (P.98/2017 Amd.) – amendment. Amd.Amd. Lodged: 21st November 2017.
Comité des Connétable s.
Jersey Gas Works site: development by Andium Homes Limited. P.114/2017. Lodged: 21st November 2017.
Council of Ministers.
Written Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
1(617) 1. H.M. Attorney General tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier
regarding political polling undertaken by private companies.
1(618) 2. The Minister for Social Security tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of
St. Helier regarding the cost of subsidising GP visits.
1(619) 3. The Minister for Health and Social Services tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy
S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier regarding the provision of general nursing training in Jersey.
1(620) 4. The Minister for Infrastructure tabled an answer to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of
St. Helier regarding roads surrounding the Millennium Town Park.
Oral Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
1(625) 1. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding findings of the
Jersey Community Relations Trust in 2012 in respect of gender disparity in the Judiciary.
1(623) 2. Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Education regarding the
number of teachers resigning from the profession before retirement.
1(622) 3. Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Education regarding the
Early Years' Childhood Partnership report.
1(616) 4. Deputy J.M. Maçon of St. Saviour asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding consultation on
proposals in respect of student finance.
1(621) 5. Deputy K.C. Lewis of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for the Environment regarding
the reinstatement of an all-weather lifeboat service.
1(624) 6. Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for the Environment regarding
the steps taken to ensure Islanders' safety when out at sea.
1(627) 7. Senator P.F.C. Ozouf asked a question of the Minister for Housing regarding the current demand
for, and supply of, homes.
Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Minister for Social Security answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.
Personal statement
(see Official Report/Hansard)
Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf , in accordance with Standing Order 16(3), made a personal statement regarding his expenses during his time as Assistant Chief Minister.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES approved the requests of Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf and the Minister for Treasury and Resources, in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the following propositions that they had lodged in order that they might be debated at the present meeting –
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.) – second amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.Amd.(2)), lodged by Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fourth amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(4)), lodged by Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fourth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(4)) – amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(4)Amd.), lodged by the Minister for Treasury and Resources
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fifth amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(5)), lodged by Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): fifth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(5)) – amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(5)Amd.), lodged by the Minister for Treasury and Resources
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): sixth amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(6)), lodged by Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): sixth amendment (P.90/2017 Amd.(6)) – amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(6)Amd.), lodged by the Minister for Treasury and Resources
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): seventh amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(7)), lodged by Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf
Draft Budget Statement 2018 (P.90/2017): eighth amendment' (P.90/2017 Amd.(8)), lodged by Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf .
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 28 CONTRE: 11 ABSTAIN: 2
Senator P.F. Routier Connétable of St. Clement Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf Connétable of St. John Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Senator A.J.H. Maclean Connétable of Trinity
Senator I.J. Gorst Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)
Senator L.J. Farnham Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Senator P.M. Bailhache Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Connétable of St. Helier Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Connétable of St. Peter Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Connétable of St. Lawrence Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)
Connétable of St. Mary Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)
Connétable of St. Brelade Deputy of St. Mary
Connétable of St. Martin
Connétable of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)
Deputy S.M. Bree (C)
Deputy M.J. Norton (B)
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)
Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Tuesday 28th November 2017 to consider the items of public business listed for the present meeting.
THE STATES rose at 5.04 p.m.
L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States