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States Minutes 21st February 2018

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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 21st February 2018, at 09.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir William James Bailhache .

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 10.34 a.m.) Senator Alan John Henry Maclean – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.52 a.m.)

Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour – ill

Deputy Susan Jane Pinel of St. Clement – en défaut

Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour – en défaut

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Prayers

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Notification of lodged propositions

Committee of Inquiry: actions taken by the R.N.L.I. and the Jersey Government which led  P.36/2018. to the removal of the All Weather Lifeboat.

Lodged: 21st February 2018.

Senator S.C. Ferguson.

Future Hospital: Review of proposed site location and costs.  P.37/2018. Lodged: 21st February 2018.

Connétable of St. John .

Social housing in Jersey: introduction of a regulatory framework P.120/2017

THE STATES, resuming consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Housing entitled Social housing in Jersey: introduction of a  regulatory framework' (P.120/2017), as amended, rejected  the proposition –

  1. to agree, in principle, to the introduction of regulation in relation to social housing, as set out in the report accompanying the proposition;
  2. to agree, in principle, that the  proposed components  of this  regulatory framework should include –
  1. the establishment of a register of social housing providers;
  2. the introduction of performance standards for social housing providers, and measures to monitor and assess performance against those standards, with particular regard to the interaction with both Income Support and the States' 90% rent policy;
  3. the establishment of a social housing regulator;
  4. the inclusion of an appropriate power of Direction to the Regulator by the Minister for Housing; and
  1. the introduction of statutory oversight and governance arrangements for the assessment and prioritisation of housing supply and the type of housing needed through the Affordable Housing Gateway; and
  1. to charge the Minister for Housing to develop and bring forward, for approval, the necessary legislation to implement the proposals in paragraph (b) above within 2 years.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 15  CONTRE: 29  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F. Routier  Senator S.C. Ferguson   Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Senator P.F.C. Ozouf   Connétable of St. Helier

Senator A.J.H. Maclean   Connétable of St. Clement

Senator I.J. Gorst   Connétable of St. Mary

Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of St. Ouen

Senator A.K.F. Green   Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Peter   Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Lawrence   Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Brelade   Connétable of St. John

Deputy of Trinity   Connétable of Trinity

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of St. Martin   Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)   Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Peter   Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)   Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H)

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Deputy A.D. Lewis (H)

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy S.M. Brée (C)

Deputy M.J. Norton (B)

Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(b), the following members declared an interest, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of the Minister for Housing –

Senator Alan John Henry Maclean Senator Ian Joseph Gorst

Senator Lyndon John Farnham Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson The Connétable of St. Peter

The Connétable of St. Ouen

The Connétable of St. Saviour The Connétable of Grouville

The Connétable of St. John

Deputy John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré of St. Lawrence Deputy Edward James Noel of St. Lawrence

The Deputy of St. Martin

The Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy Richard John Rondel of St. Helier

Deputy Andrew David Lewis of St. Helier

The Deputy of St. Ouen .

States Employment Board: living wage 2017 P.122/2017

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier entitled States Employment Board: living wage 2017' (P.122/2017), agreed –

  1. to request the Chairman of the States Employment Board to –
  1. seek accreditation for the States of Jersey as a Living Wage employer;
  2. ensure that all directly-employed States of Jersey staff were paid at least the Jersey Living Wage by 1st June 2018; and
  3. ensure that all sub-contracted or agency employees engaged to deliver services for, and on premises owned by, the States of Jersey, were paid at least the Jersey Living Wage;
  1. to request the Minister for Treasury and Resources, as shareholder representative, to urge those incorporated bodies of which the States of Jersey was sole shareholder to seek accreditation as Living Wage employers; and
  2. to request the Minister for Treasury and Resources to take steps to ensure that the wage rates offered by contractors to the States of Jersey were taken into consideration in the evaluation of tenders for goods and services issued by States of Jersey departments and other States bodies for which procurement activity was overseen by his Department.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42  CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F. Routier  Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator P.F.C. Ozouf

Senator A.J.H. Maclean

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator A.K.F. Green

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Brée (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Hospital catering department: cancel relocation to an offsite location – petition P.124/2017

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson entitled Hospital catering department: cancel relocation to an offsite location – petition' (P.124/2017) to cancel the relocation of the Hospital catering department to an offsite location.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 6 CONTRE: 27 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.M. Brée (C)


Senator P.F. Routier Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), the following members declared an interest and withdrew from the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson –

The Connétable of St. Mary

The Connétable of Trinity

Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour Deputy Richard John Rondel of St. Helier Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier

Deputy Scott Michael Wickenden of St. Helier Deputy Graham John Truscott of St. Brelade .

Jersey Financial Services Commission: re-appointment of Commissioner P.125/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Chief Minister entitled Jersey Financial Services Commission: re-appointment of Commissioner' (P.125/2018) and the Bailiff , in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 82, ordered all strangers to withdraw from the precincts of the States and the doors of the Chamber to be closed.

THE STATES, having concluded the debate in camera, proceeded to vote in public assembly and, adopting the proposition of the Chief Minister, agreed, in pursuance of Article 3 of the Financial Services Commission (Jersey) Law 1998, to re-appoint Mr. John Harris as a Commissioner of the Jersey Financial Services Commission with effect from 1st March 2018 for a period of 5 years.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Brée (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Draft Consumer Protection (Unfair Practices) (Jersey) Law 201- P.130/2017

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Consumer Protection (Unfair Practices) (Jersey) Law 201- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 44 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Brée (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 21 and the Schedule.

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of Her Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Consumer Protection (Unfair Practices) (Jersey) Law 201-.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator P.F. Routier

Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy S.M. Brée (C) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

Draft Machinery of Government (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- P.1/2018

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Machinery of Government (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201-.

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Simon Muir Brée of St. Clement that, in accordance with Standing Order 79(1), the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel should be requested to consider having the Draft Machinery of Government (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- referred to it.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 15 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.C. Ferguson Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy J.A. Hilton (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Brée (C) Deputy T.A. McDonald (S) Deputy of St. Mary


Senator P.F. Routier Senator A.J.H. Maclean Senator I.J. Gorst Senator L.J. Farnham Senator P.M. Bailhache Senator A.K.F. Green Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of Trinity Deputy E.J. Noel (L) Deputy of St. John Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy R.J. Rondel (H) Deputy A.D. Lewis (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy M.J. Norton (B) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE  STATES,  resuming  consideration  of  the  Draft  Machinery  of  Government  (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201-, adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32  CONTRE: 5  ABSTAIN: 2

Senator P.F. Routier   Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy J.A.N. Le Fondré (L) Senator A.J.H. Maclean   Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Deputy of St. Mary

Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Senator L.J. Farnham   Deputy S.Y. Mézec (H)

Senator P.M. Bailhache   Deputy S.M. Brée (C)

Senator A.K.F. Green

Senator S.C. Ferguson

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of Trinity

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy E.J. Noel (L)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy R.G. Bryans (H)

Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy M.J. Norton (B)

Deputy T.A. McDonald (S)

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy P.D. McLinton (S)

THE STATES, having been informed by the Chairman of the Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 72(1), he wished to have the Draft Machinery of Government (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- referred to that Scrutiny Panel, deferred consideration to 22nd February 2018 when, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 72(6), the 2nd reading of the draft Law should be listed to continue.

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 22nd February 2018, to continue consideration of the Draft Machinery of Government (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Jersey) Law 201- and other outstanding items of public business.

THE STATES rose at 5.59 p.m.

DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States