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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 16th July 2020, at 9.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.
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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Connétable Christopher Hugh Taylor of St. John – ill
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Prayers
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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely
THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.
Notification of lodged propositions
Establishment of a digital register of all commercial and residential properties. P.93/2020. Lodged: 16th July 2020.
Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier .
Extended limits of co-payments for G.P. consultations: young people and pregnant women P.80/2020
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier , as amended, rejected the proposition to request the Minister for Health and Social Services, in consultation with the Minister for Social Security and the Council of Ministers, as appropriate, to take such steps as were necessary, for implementation between the cessation of the current agreement between the Department of Health and Community Services and the Island's G.P.s and the commencement of a scheme on 1st January 2021 in accordance with the States Assembly's adoption of Affordable access to Primary Care Scheme' (P.125/2019) on 4th February 2020, to –
- allow young people to receive free G.P. consultations from 0 years to 17 years of age;
- reduce the cost of a pregnancy package' for pregnant women from £120 to zero; and
- identify the appropriate source for the funding of this improvement.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 16 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 1 Senator S.Y. Mézec Senator I.J. Gorst Senator T.A. Vallois
Connétable of St. Helier Senator L.J. Farnham
Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator S.C. Ferguson
Connétable of Trinity Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré
STATES MINUTES
Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
16th July 2020
Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)
G.P. fees and income support P.81/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier entitled G.P. fees and income support' (P.81/2020) and, adopting and amendment of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier (P.81/2020 Amd.), agreed that in the preamble to paragraph (a), for the words "to review his recent decisions on the level of co-payments to be charged to various groups of patients for the delivery of primary care, and" there should be substituted the words "to take such steps as are necessary, for implementation between the cessation of the current agreement between the Department of Health and Community Services and the Island's G.P.s and the commencement of a scheme on 1st January 2021 in accordance with the States Assembly's adoption of Affordable access to Primary Care Scheme' (P.125/2019) on 4th February 2020,".
THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier , as amended, rejected the proposition to request the Minister for Health and Social Services in consultation with the Minister for Social Security and the Council of Ministers, as appropriate, to take such steps as were necessary, for implementation between the cessation of the current agreement between the Department of Health and Community Services and the Island's G.P.s and the commencement of a scheme on 1st January 2021 in accordance with the States Assembly's adoption of Affordable access to Primary Care Scheme' (P.125/2019) on 4th February 2020, to –
- add to the list of those eligible for free primary health care through G.P. consultations, members of households in receipt of Income Support; and
- identify and bring forward for approval by the Assembly an appropriate source of funding for the foregoing.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 13 CONTRE: 32 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Mary Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Investigation into the establishment of a digital register of landlords and tenants P.82/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Deputy of St. Peter entitled Investigation into the establishment of a digital register of landlords and tenants' (P.82/2020) and, adopting an amendment of the Deputy of St. Peter (P.82/2020 Amd.), agreed that, for the words "and of the Lodging Homes (Registration) (Jersey) Law 1962 in order to determine the feasibility of using this legislation", there should be substituted the words ", the Lodging Houses (Registration) (Jersey) Law 1962 and any other legislation or data source deemed relevant in order to determine the feasibility of using this legislation and these data sources".
THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Deputy of St. Peter , as amended, and, adopting the proposition, requested the Council of Ministers –
- to investigate the provisions and administration of the Control of Housing and Work (Jersey) Law 2012 (in particular Articles 9 and 16), the Lodging Houses (Registration) (Jersey) Law 1962 and any other legislation or data source deemed relevant in order to determine the feasibility of using this legislation and these data sources to establish a digital register of landlords and tenants, with the register to cover landlords and tenants of accommodation in the following categories –
• Qualified accommodation;
• Registered accommodation;
• Lodging houses;
• Lodgings in private dwellings; and
- to report back to the States Assembly by 1st September 2020 with the findings of this investigation, identifying (where appropriate) prospective changes that could be made to the legislation and that would increase the feasibility of using the Laws for the purpose of establishing such a register.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 34 CONTRE: 12 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.Y. Mézec Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. John
Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H)
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), the following members declared an interest, but remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of the Deputy of St. Peter entitled Investigation into the establishment of a digital register of landlords and tenants' (P.82/2020) –
Senator Ian Joseph Gorst
Senator John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré
Senator Kristina Louise Moore
Senator Samuel Yves Mézec
The Connétable of St. Helier
The Connétable of Grouville
The Connétable of St. Mary
The Connétable of St. Ouen
Deputy Carolyn Fiona Labey of Grouville
Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade
Deputy Susan Jane Pinel of St. Clement
The Deputy of St. Martin
The Deputy of St. Ouen
The Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy Graham John Truscott of St. Brelade
Deputy John Hilary Young of St. Brelade
Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence
Deputy Gregory Charles Umberto Guida of St. Lawrence The Deputy of St. Peter
The Deputy of Trinity
Deputy Kevin Glyn Pamplin of St. Saviour
Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier
Draft Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.83/2020
THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 10.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 2020 under the Order in Council dated 28th March 1771 and the Order in Council made on 14th April 1884.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Jersey Heritage Trust: appointment of Chair P.90/2020
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture entitled Jersey Heritage Trust: appointment of Chair' (P.90/2020), appointed Mr. Tim Brown as Chair of the Jersey Heritage Trust for a four-year term commencing on 1st August 2020.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 47 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)
Adjournment
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier , adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Friday 17th July 2020 to consider in Committee the report entitled Island Plan Review: in- committee debate' (R.66/2020), presented by the Minister for the Environment, and other matters relating to the development of the next Island Plan.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 26 CONTRE: 20 ABSTAIN: 0
Senator I.J. Gorst
Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B)
Senator K.L. Moore
Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)
Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy of Trinity Deputy of St. John Deputy J.H. Perchard (S) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)
THE STATES rose at 4.28 p.m.
L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States