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States Minutes 22nd July 2021

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THE STATES assembled on Thursday 22nd July 2021, at 9.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Deputy Robert David Johnson of St. Mary – excused attendance (joined at 9.38 a.m.) Deputy Jessica Harriet Perchard of St. Saviour – excused attendance

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Prayers read by the Deputy Greffier of the States __________________

Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely

THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.

Jersey Police Authority – appointment of member

In accordance with Article 5 of the States of Jersey Police Force Law 2012, the Minister for Home Affairs nominated Senator Stephen William Pallett as a member of the Jersey Police Authority.

There being no other nominations, the Bailiff declared that Senator Stephen William Pallett had been duly appointed as a member of the Jersey Police Authority.

Documents presented

Our Hospital Programme Outline business case  R.124/2021. Presented: 22nd July 2021, Chief Minister.

Jersey Bank Depositors Compensation Board Annual Report and Audited Financial  R.125/2021. Statements for the Year Ended 31 January 2021

Presented: 22nd July 2021, Minister for External Relations and Financial Services.

Springfield – Protection of amenity space and facilities P.67/2021

THE  STATES  commenced  consideration  of  a  proposition  of the   Connétable  of  St.  Helier  entitled Springfield – Protection of amenity space and facilities' (P.67/2021) and acceded to a request by the Connétable  of  St.  Helier,  in  accordance  with  Standing  Order  69(4),  that  paragraph  (a)(ii)  of  his proposition be withdrawn.

THE STATES, adopting paragraphs (a)(i) and (a)(iii) of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier , requested the Minister of Infrastructure, and the Minister of Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture, in respect of Springfield Park –

to maintain the same amount of open amenity green space and tree planting in the grounds of Springfield Stadium in the course of upgrading the pitch; and

to facilitate regular meetings with the local residents' association and elected representatives of the area in order that the needs of the local community could be taken into consideration both for the current use of the Park and in any future plans.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 29  CONTRE: 3  ABSTAIN: 9

Senator S.C. Ferguson  Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré   Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)   Connétable of Trinity Senator T.A. Vallois   Deputy of Trinity   Connétable of St. Ouen Senator K.L. Moore   Deputy of St. Martin Senator S.W. Pallett   Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Senator S.Y. Mézec   Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Connétable of St. Helier   Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Connétable of St. Saviour   Deputy of St. Peter Connétable of St. Brelade   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

Deputy C.S. Alves (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b)(i) of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier , requested the Minister of Infrastructure, and the Minister of Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture, in respect of Springfield Stadium to maintain the current lease arrangements with the day nursery on the site (Leeward Child Care), with only cost of living increases implemented until such time as the nursery's management was satisfied with the terms of any new lease Jersey Property Holdings wishes to negotiate.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32  CONTRE: 9  ABSTAIN: 3

Senator S.C. Ferguson  Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator T.A. Vallois  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré   Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Senator K.L. Moore   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)   Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Senator S.W. Pallett   Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Senator S.Y. Mézec   Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Connétable of St. Helier   Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Connétable of St. Saviour   Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Connétable of St. Brelade   Deputy of St. Peter Connétable of Grouville   Deputy of Trinity Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

Deputy C.S. Alves (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraphs (b)(ii) to (b)(iv) of the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier , requested the Minister of Infrastructure, and the Minister of Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture, in respect of Springfield Stadium –

to review the use of the car park within the Robin Hood gyratory and to report back to the States on the options for increasing the benefits of the site for the operation of Springfield;

to include Springfield Park and Stadium on the route for the proposed new Town Hopper' bus service; and

to facilitate regular meetings with the tenants of the stadium, the local residents' association and elected representatives of the area in order that the needs of the local community could be taken into consideration both for the current use of the Stadium, and in any future plans.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38  CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 5

Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of St. Lawrence Senator S.C. Ferguson   Deputy of St. Martin Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré   Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Senator T.A. Vallois   Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Senator K.L. Moore   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Senator S.Y. Mézec

Connétable of St. Helier

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), the following members declared an interest that was not financial, as they  were each a member of the Planning Committee, and remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of the Connétable of St. Helier

The Connétable of St. Lawrence

The Connétable of Trinity

The Deputy of St. Peter

The Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy Graham John Truscott of St. Brelade Deputy Lindsay Barry Edward Ash of St. Clement Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. Lawrence Deputy Mary Rose Le Hegarat of St. Helier

Draft Criminal Procedure (Juries – Tirage) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.57/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Criminal Procedure (Juries – Tirage) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36  CONTRE: 1  ABSTAIN: 0 Senator L.J. Farnham  Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator T.A. Vallois

Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 5.

THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Criminal Procedure (Juries – Tirage) (Jersey) Regulations 2021 under Article 64 of the Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018 and Articles 1(2) and 5(2) of the Register of Names and Addresses (Jersey) Law 2012.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 35  CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator T.A. Vallois  Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Connétable of St. John

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Changes in Presidency

The Deputy Bailiff retired from the Chair prior to consideration of the Draft Criminal Procedure (Juries – Tirage) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States.  

Draft Criminal Procedure (Consequential and Supplementary Amendments) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.59/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Criminal Procedure (Consequential and Supplementary Amendments) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, commenced consideration of Regulations 1 to 26 and, adopting an amendment of the Minister for Home Affairs (P.59/2021 Amd.), agreed that, after Regulation 7(11), there should be inserted –

"(12) In Schedule 2 paragraph 12(2) for "retried" there is substituted "indicted".". THE STATES adopted Regulations 1 to 26, as amended.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Criminal Procedure (Consequential and Supplementary Amendments) (Jersey) Regulations 2021 under Articles 103(4) and 115 of the Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Draft Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018 (Appointed Day) (No. 4) Act 202- P.68/2021

THE STATES made an Act entitled the Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018 (Appointed Day) (No. 4) Act 2021 under Article 119 of the Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018.

Changes in Presidency

Dr. Mark Egan, Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during consideration of the Draft Criminal Procedure (Jersey) Law 2018 (Appointed Day) (No. 4) Act 202- and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Deputy Greffier of the States.  

Affordable Homes in the South Hill Development P.69/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of a  proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec  entitled Affordable Homes in the South Hill Development' (P.69/2021) and, adopting paragraphs (a) and (b), agreed that in the proposed development of South Hill by the States of Jersey Development Company (SoJDC) that –

  1. no residential properties should be sold on to buy-to-let investors; and
  2. requested the Chief Minister to use his powers under the Control of Work and Housing (Jersey) Law 2012 to put such conditions on the South Hill properties.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 27 CONTRE: 16 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (c) of the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec , requested the Council of Ministers to present a report to the States Assembly by 31st August 2021 which provided guidance to be used by SoJDC with the aim of maximising the proportion of homes to be designated as for "affordable purchase", while maintaining the overall viability of the scheme.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 24  CONTRE: 18  ABSTAIN: 1 Senator S.C. Ferguson  Senator I.J. Gorst   Deputy R. Labey (H)

Senator T.A. Vallois  Senator L.J. Farnham

Senator K.L. Moore  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator S.W. Pallett   Connétable of St. Helier

Senator S.Y. Mézec   Connétable of Trinity

Connétable of St. Lawrence   Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Brelade   Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of Grouville   Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Connétable of St. John   Deputy of Grouville

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)   Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)   Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)   Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Martin   Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)   Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

Deputy of St. Mary   Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)   Deputy of Trinity

Deputy J.H. Young (B)   Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

Deputy C.S. Alves (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (d) of the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec , requested the Minister for Treasury and Resources, as shareholder representative, to instruct the SoJDC accordingly.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 27  CONTRE: 11  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of Trinity Senator S.C. Ferguson   Connétable of St. Peter Senator T.A. Vallois   Connétable of St. Mary Senator K.L. Moore   Connétable of St. Ouen Senator S.W. Pallett   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

STATES MINUTES

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


22nd July 2021

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Changes in Presidency

Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Deputy Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during consideration of the proposition of Senator Samuel Yves Mézec entitled Affordable Homes in the South Hill Development' (P.69/2021) and the meeting continued under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff .  

Parental Bereavement Leave P.70/2021

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Stephen Morrison Ahier of St. Helier entitled Parental Bereavement Leave' (P.70/2021) and, adopting the proposition, requested the Minister for Social Security to bring forward proposals to the States, for debate prior to the end of March 2022, to grant all employees the right to two weeks of Parental Bereavement Leave following the death of a child under the age of 18, the costs of the scheme to be met fully by the States.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade had informed the Greffier of the States that his amendment (P.71/2021 Amd.(2)) to the proposition of the Minister for Housing and Communities entitled Les Quennevais Park Flats Loan Scheme – Revised Terms' (P.71/2021) had been withdrawn.

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Friday 23rd July 2021 to continue consideration of the outstanding items of public business listed for the meeting.

THE STATES rose at 5.38 p.m.

L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States