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THE STATES assembled on Friday 18th March 2022, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff , Robert James MacRae , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Senator Tracey Anne Vallois – ill

Connétable Philip Bond Le Sueur of Trinity – absent on States business

Deputy Judith Ann Martin of St. Helier – excused attendance (joined at 9.58 a.m.) Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.44 a.m.) Deputy Jeremy Martin Maçon of St. Saviour – ill

Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour – ill

Deputy Rowland Edward Huelin of St. Peter – ill

Deputy Jessica Harriet Perchard of St. Saviour – ill

Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier – ill

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – remote participation

THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams.

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval P.36/2021

THE STATES, resuming consideration of a proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, resumed consideration of an amendment of the Minister for the Environment (P.36/2021 Amd.(91)), as amended, and, adopting paragraph (a), agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. the following should be removed from the list of sites to be zoned for affordable homes in Policy H5 – Provision of affordable homes –
  1. Fields H1186A, H1189, H1198 La Grande Route de St. Jean, St. Helier
  2. Fields MN389 and MN390 La Rue de la Haye, St. Martin
  3. Fields S729 New York Lane, St. Saviour ".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38  CONTRE: 2  ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst  Senator K.L. Moore Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of St. Brelade Senator S.C. Ferguson

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraphs (b), (c) and (d) of the amendment of the Minister for the Environment, as amended, agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. the following should be inserted within the list of sites to be zoned for affordable homes in Policy H5 – Provision of affordable homes –
  1. J229, La Route du Nord, St. John
  2. J236, La Rue du Cimetière, St. John
  3. J1109 La Grande Route de St. Jean, St. John
  4. MY563 La Rue de la Rosière & La Rue de la Vallée, St. Mary
  5. O785 La Rue  des  Cosnets,  St.  Ouen, and  also, amend the cartographic  error on the proposals map to ensure the site remains in the green zone, consistent with all other H5 sites.
  6. P558 La Verte Rue, St. Peter , to be brought forward as part of a comprehensive scheme with P559 and P632
  7. P559 La Route du Manoir, St. Peter , to be brought forward as part of a comprehensive scheme with P558 and P632
  1. in Appendix 1 – Affordable housing site assessments, from page 325 of the Draft Bridging Island Plan –
  1. the assessments for those sites listed in paragraph (a) should be removed.; and
  2. initial assessments, as set out in Appendix 1 to the amendment of the Minister for the Environment, for those sites listed in paragraph (b) should be added; and
  1. the Draft Bridging Island Plan Proposals Map Part A – Planning Zones should be amended to reflect the adoption of paragraph (a) and (b).".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 30 CONTRE: 10 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, Deputy Russell Labey of St. Helier declared an interest in the subject of the amendment of the Minister for the Environment (P.26/2021 Amd.(91)) to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment, in that Field 558, between Rue des Sapins and La Verte Rue in St. Peter , was farmed by a relative and he did not vote on the amendment.

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, Senator John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré declared an interest in the subject of the amendment of the Minister for the Environment (P.36/2021 Amd.(91)) to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment, in that Field MY563 in La Rue de la Rosière and La Rue de la Vallée, St. Mary , belonged to an organisation of which he was a trustee and he did not vote on the amendment.

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for the Environment, as amended, and, adopting an amendment of the Deputy of Grouville (P.36/2021 Amd.(62)) agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. the following should be removed from the list of sites to be zoned for affordable homes at Policy H5 – Provision of affordable homes –

"1. Field G392A Grouville (0.75 hectares/4.2 vergées)";

  1. the draft Island Plan 2022-25 should be further amended in such respects as may be necessary consequent upon the adoption of paragraph (a); and
  2. the Draft Bridging Island Plan Proposals Map Part A – Planning Zones should be amended to reflect the adoption of paragraph (a)."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 25 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.W. Pallett

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Clement Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. John Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, following the adoption of the amendment of the Minister for the Environment (P.36/2021 Amd.(91)), as amended, to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, the following amendments were deemed to have been withdrawn –

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval (P.36/2021) – amendment' (P.36/2021 Amd.), lodged by Deputy Mary Rose Le Hegarat of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.)

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval (P.36/2021) – fourth amendment' (P.36/2021 Amd.(4)), lodged by the Connétable of St. Peter

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval (P.36/2021) – fortieth amendment' (P.36/2021 Amd.(40)), lodged by Senator Kristina Louise Moore

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval (P.36/2021) – forty-ninth amendment' (P.36/2021 Amd.(49)), lodged by the Connétable of St. Mary

Paragraph (a)(iii) of Island Plan 2022-25: Approval (P.36/2021) – second amendment' (P.36/2021 Amd.(2)), lodged by Deputy Kevin Charles Lewis of St. Saviour

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval P.36/2021

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, and, adopting an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.(12)) agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022- 25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. the following should be removed from the list of sites to be zoned for affordable homes in Policy H5 – Provision of affordable homes –

5.  Field H1219 St. Helier (1.20 hectares/6.6 vergées);

  1. the draft Island Plan 2022-25 should be further amended in such respects as may be necessary consequent upon the adoption of paragraph (a);
  2. the draft Bridging Island Plan Proposals Map Part A – Planning Zones should be amended to reflect the adoption of paragraph (a).".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 19 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. John Deputy of Grouville

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Relationship between twelfth and seventy-eighth amendments to Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021) – ruling by the Deputy Bailiff

The Deputy Bailiff made the following ruling regarding the relationship between the amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.(12)) and the amendment of Deputy Stephen Morrison Ahier of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.(78)) to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021) –

"Members will recall, prior to the adjournment I indicated I was going to give a ruling in relation to the effect of the debate on the 12th amendment on the next amendment listed for debate, namely the 78th amendment. If amendment 12 is adopted, the effect will be that the field in question is no longer zoned for affordable housing. In those circumstances, my ruling is that amendment 78 may be debated but only as to parts (b), (c) and (d) of the proposition as (a) will have just been adopted by the Assembly. If amendment 12 is rejected, and the effect of which is that the field remains zoned for affordable housing, then amendment 78 may also be debated but must be voted on as a whole as it would offend Standing Order 20 to vote on part (a) separately. So, whatever the outcome of this debate, Members will be able to debate amendment 78."

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, following the adoption of the amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.(12)) to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022- 25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, paragraph (a) of the amendment of Deputy Stephen Morrison Ahier of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.(78)) to the same proposition was deemed to have been withdrawn.

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval P.36/2021

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, and, adopting paragraphs (b), (c) and (d) of an amendment of Deputy Stephen Morrison Ahier of St. Helier (P.36/2021 Amd.(78)) agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. within  Policy  H6,  after  the  first  paragraph  there  should  be  inserted  the  following  new paragraph – "The following site should be specifically zoned for the provision of purpose-built fully-accessible homes for people with disabilities, and its development for any other use will not be supported:

Field H1219, La Grande Route de Mont a L'Abbé, St. Helier (1.20 hectares/6.6 vergées)";

  1. the draft Island Plan 2022-25 should be further amended in such respects as may be necessary consequent upon the adoption of (b); and
  2. the Draft Bridging Island Plan Proposals Map Part A – Planning Zones should be amended to reflect the adoption of (b)."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28  CONTRE: 10  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator I.J. Gorst  Senator S.Y. Mézec   Connétable of St. Ouen Senator L.J. Farnham   Connétable of St. Helier

Senator S.C. Ferguson   Connétable of St. Saviour

Senator K.L. Moore   Connétable of St. Brelade

Senator S.W. Pallett   Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)


Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy of St. Mary Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the Deputy of St. Martin had informed the Greffier of the States that his amendment (P.36/2021 Amd.(16)) to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021) had been withdrawn.

Island Plan 2022-25: Approval P.36/2021

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, and, adopting paragraph (a)(i) and (a)(ii) of an amendment of Deputy Kevin Charles Lewis of St. Saviour (P.36/2021 Amd.(2)), agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

(a)  the following should be removed from the list of sites to be zoned for affordable homes at Policy H5 – Provision of affordable homes –

  1. 10. Field S413 St. Saviour (0.70 hectares/3.9 vergées);

11. Field S415 St. Saviour (0.45 hectares/2.5 vergées).

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 20 CONTRE: 16 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter


Senator I.J. Gorst Senator L.J. Farnham Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. John

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (a)(ii) of the amendment of Deputy Kevin Charles Lewis of St. Saviour (P.36/2021 Amd.(2)), agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. the following should be removed from the list of sites to be zoned for affordable homes at Policy H5 – Provision of affordable homes –
  1. 14. Field S530 St. Saviour (0.80 hectares/4.4 vergées);

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28 CONTRE: 10 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst Senator L.J. Farnham Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Mary Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen Deputy J.H. Young (B)

THE STATES, adopting paragraphs (b) and (c) of the amendment of Deputy Kevin Charles Lewis of St. Saviour , agreed that, after the words "the draft Island Plan 2022-25", there should be inserted the words "except that –

  1. the draft Island Plan 2022-25 should be further amended in such respects as may be necessary consequent upon the adoption of paragraph (a); and
  2. the Draft Bridging Island Plan Proposals Map Part A – Planning Zones should be amended to reflect the adoption of paragraph (a).".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 30 CONTRE: 4 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of St. Mary Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the Connétable of St. Saviour had informed the Greffier of the States that her amendment (P.36/2021 Amd.(29)) to the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021) had been withdrawn.

Adjournment

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Lyndon John Farnham , adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Monday 21st March 2022 to continue consideration of the proposition of the Minister for the Environment entitled Island Plan 2022-25: Approval' (P.36/2021), as amended, and the remaining amendments listed for the meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 19 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C. Ferguson Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy S.J. Pinel (C) Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John


Senator I.J. Gorst

Senator K.L. Moore Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy of St. Martin Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy L.B. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES rose at 5.11 p.m.

L.-M. HART Deputy Greffier of the States

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