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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 13th June 2023, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,
Sir Timothy John Le Cocq .
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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, Vice-Admiral Jeremy Paul Kyd, C.B.E. was present. __________________
All members were present at roll call with the exception of –
Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier Central – absent on States business
Deputy Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf of St. Saviour – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 12.25 p.m.) Deputy Sir Philip Martin Bailhache of St. Clement – excused attendance
Deputy Thomas Antony Coles of St. Helier South – absent on States business
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Prayers
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Standing Order 55A – remote participation
THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams. No members participated remotely in the meeting.
HRH Princess Royal – Visit
The Bailiff advised the Assembly that Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal would visit the Island on 13th July 2023 in order to unveil The King's Arch at Government House and to visit the Tortoise Takeover Trail and official opening of the new Aldabran Tortoise House at Jersey Zoo.
Subordinate enactments tabled
The following enactments were tabled, namely –
Planning and Building (Caravans) (Jersey) Order 2023. R&O.37/2023. Minister for the Environment.
Planning and Building (Display of Advertisements – Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Order R&O.40/2023. 2023.
Sanctions and Asset-Freezing (Automatic Implementation of UK Sanctions on R&O.41/2023. Belarus) (Jersey) Order 2023.
Minister for External Relations.
Documents presented
Health and Community Services Interim Board (P.19/2023): comments. P.19/2023. Presented: 12th June 2023, Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel. Com.
Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No.18) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.24/2023. (P.24/2023): comments. Com. Presented: 25th May 2023, Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel..
Provision of a free hopper bus service for Active card holders to Springfield stadium P.33/2023. (P.33/2023): comments. Com. Presented: 8th June 2023, Minister for Infrastructure.
Draft Act declaring that the Income Tax (Amendment – Stage 2 of Independent P.41/2023. Taxation) (Jersey) Law 202- has immediate effect. Add. Presented: 6th June 2023, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
First-Time Buyer Guidance. R.91/2023. Presented: 26th May 2023, Minister for Housing and Communities.
States of Jersey Law 2005: delegation of functions – Minister for Treasury and R.92/2023. Resources – delegated authority.
Presented: 26th May 2023, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Commissioner for Standards – revised statement. R.93/2023. Presented: 2nd June 2023, Privileges and Procedures Committee.
States of Jersey Complaints board: Findings – Complaint by Ms. Mayer against the R.94/2023. Minister for Treasury and Resources regarding the administration of the Co-Funded
Presented: 7th June 2023, Privileges and Procedures Committee.
Government of Jersey Long Term Care Fund Actuarial review as at 31st December R.95/2023. 2021.
Presented: 7th June 2023, Minister for Social Security.
Report by the Government Actuary on the Jersey Social Security Fund as at 31st R.96/2023. December 2021.
Presented: 7th June 2023, Minister for Social Security.
Report by the Government Actuary on the Health Insurance Fund as at 31st December R.97/2023. 2021.
Presented: 7th June 2023, Minister for Social Security.
Jersey Care Commission Annual Report 2022. R.98/2023. Presented: 7th June 2023, Minister for the Environment.
Jersey Financial Services Commission: Re-Appointment of Commissioner. R.99/2023. Presented: 9th June 2023, Chief Minister.
Channel Islands Financial Ombudsman Annual Report 2022. R.101/2023. Presented: 12th June 2023, Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and
Jersey Charity Commissioner: re-appointment. R.102/2023. Presented: 12th June 2023, Chief Minister.
Jersey Office of the Information Commissioner Annual Report 2022. R.103/2023. Presented: 12th June 2023, Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and
Updated Debt Framework. R.104/2023. Presented: 12th June 2023, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Notification of lodged propositions
The Grindadrap Festival in the Faroe Islands – condemnation of the hunting of sea P.35/2023. mammals (P.35/2023 (re-issue)) – amendment. Amd. Lodged: 6th June 2023, Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter .
Draft EU Legislation (Information Accompanying Transfers of Funds) (Amendment) P.36/2023. (Jersey) Regulations 202-.
Lodged: 26th May 2023, Chief Minister.
New Stamp Duty Rates. P.39/2023. Lodged: 5th June 2023, Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North .
Draft Public Health and Safety (Rented Dwellings) (Licensing) (Jersey) Regulations P.40/2023. 202-
Lodged: 5th June 2023, Minister for the Environment.
Draft Income Tax (Amendment – Stage 2 of Independent Taxation) (Jersey) Law 202-. P.41/2023. Lodged: 6th June 2023, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Draft Proceeds of Crime (Financial Intelligence – Commencement of Amendment P.42/2023. Regulations) (Jersey) Act 202-.
Lodged: 12th June 2023, Chief Minister.
States of Jersey Development Company Limited: re-appointment of a Non-Executive P.43/2023. Director.
Lodged: 12th June 2023, Minister for Treasury and Resources.
Taxation of High Value Residents. P.44/2023. Lodged: 13th June 2023, Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central .
Appointment of non-elected Members on Scrutiny Panels. P.45/2023. Lodged: 13th June 2023, Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade .
Withdrawal of lodged propositions
THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposer of the following proposition lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that it had been withdrawn –
Written Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
WQ.227/2023 1. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 30th May 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding funding the Carbon Neutral Roadmap.
WQ.228/2023 2. The Minister for Housing and Communities had tabled an answer on 30th May 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding the Andium Homebuy scheme.
WQ.229/2023 3. The Chair of the States Employment Board had tabled an answer on 30th May 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding civil servants working from home.
WQ.230/2023 4. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 30th May 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding Losses and Special Payments of the States of Jersey Group Annual Report and Accounts for 2022.
WQ.231/2023 5. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 30th May 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding Key Performance Indicators for bonus payments to Chief Executives at States of Jersey Development Company and Ports of Jersey.
WQ.232/2023 6. The Chair of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) had tabled an answer on
6th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding CPA trips.
WQ.233/2023 7. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy
M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding complaints against public sector workers and civil servants.
WQ.234/2023 8. The Minister for Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked by
Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the offence of making indecent images of children.
WQ.235/2023 9. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding inclusive and accessible communications.
WQ.236/2023 10. The Chair of the States Employment Board had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding training in anti-corruption measures and conflict of interest identification management.
WQ.237/2023 11. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy
M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding a potential advisory council in relation to high-net-worth individuals and the use of special advisors by the Council of Ministers.
WQ.238/2023 12. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy
M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding the Statistics User Group.
WQ.239/2023 13. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy C.D . Curtis of St. Helier Central regarding a full independent inspection.
WQ.240/2023 14. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding the Spinal Cord Injury Pathway project.
WQ.241/2023 15. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding damp and mould.
WQ.242/2023 16. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding air quality monitoring.
WQ.243/2023 17. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding primary care funding mechanisms.
WQ.244/2023 18. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the survey Health Funding Attitudes in Jersey'.
WQ.245/2023 19. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the Employment (Jersey) Law 2022 and Regulations.
WQ.246/2023 20. The Minister for Housing and Communities had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding Housing Policy HD56.
WQ.247/2023 21. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer
on 6th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding the Tourism Development Fund.
WQ.248/2023 22. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 6th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding the Nutritious Food Strategy 2017-2022.
WQ.249/2023 23. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding recruitment from overseas.
WQ.250/2023 24. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding practitioners providing private healthcare at the General Hospital.
WQ.251/2023 25. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding expenditure as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product.
WQ.252/2023 26. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy
S.G. Luce of Grouville and St. Martin regarding food supply chains.
WQ.253/2023 27. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy
S.G. Luce of Grouville and St. Martin regarding the Jersey's maritime supply chain. WQ.254/2023 28. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding undeclared income. WQ.255/2023 29. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding the Horizon
development.
WQ.256/2023 30. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding interest tax relief that has been claimed for buy-to-let mortgages.
WQ.257/2023 31. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy S.G. Luce of Grouville and St. Martin regarding the Jersey Tree Detail map. WQ.258/2023 32. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the rise in medical benefit. WQ.259/2023 33. The Minister for Children and Education had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding the Care Leavers' Offer. WQ.260/2023 34. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding tenancy at Andium
Homes.
WQ.261/2023 35. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer
on 12th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding the regulation of cannabis.
WQ.262/2023 36. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding planning character appraisals.
WQ.263/2023 37. The Minister for Children and Education had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding the Inspection Reports on the three Unregistered Children's Homes.
WQ.264/2023 38. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked by Deputy
L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding the affordability of the proposed new health facilities.
WQ.265/2023 39. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding the capital costs of the proposed new health facilities.
WQ.266/2023 40. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding environmental impact studies of the proposed new health facilities.
WQ.267/2023 41. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the proposals outlined in Regulation 3 of the Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 18) (Jersey) Regulations 202- (P.24/2023).
WQ.268/2023 42. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by the Connétable of St. Helier regarding Planning Obligation Agreement sums.
WQ.269/2023 43. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by the Connétable of St. Helier regarding the timetable for the redevelopment of both Springfield School and the Le Bas Centre into parks.
WQ.270/2023 44. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the total cost of the care sector undertaken by agencies.
WQ.271/2023 45. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a
question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding an update on all activities undertaken to date in relation to Point 12 of his Ministerial Plan.
WQ.272/2023 46. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée of St. Helier South regarding the Cold Weather Bonus for Long-Term Incapacity Allowance claimants.
WQ.273/2023 47. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée of St. Helier South regarding the Cold Weather Bonus. WQ.274/2023 48. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 12th June 2023 to a question asked
by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding building design codes.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter , agreed that the period of oral questions without notice for the Minister for External Relations would be taken as the first item of business following the lunchtime adjournment or at such time as the Minister arrived in the Chamber.
Oral Questions
(see Official Report/Hansard)
OQ.111/2023 1. Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter asked a question of the Minister for
Infrastructure regarding the cost of implementing the multi-site healthcare facilities proposal. OQ.107/2023 2. Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North asked a question of the Assistant Minister for the
Environment regarding the introduction of Energy Performance Certificates.
OQ.109/2023 3. The Connétable of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development,
Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the service provided by Jersey Airport ground staff contractors.
OQ.125/2023 4. The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding the
Town Link Hopper' bus service.
OQ.118/2023 5. Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding
the operation of Locate Jersey.
OQ.121/2023 6. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for Economic Development,
Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the timetables for travel by ferry between the Island and France.
OQ.113/2023 7. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Children and
Education regarding the on-Island facilities for children needing emergency care. OQ.110/2023 8. Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Children and Education
regarding the provision of PE (Physical Education) in Government primary schools. OQ.115/2023 9. The Connétable of St. Martin asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding the
promotion of greener transport alternatives, including cycling and walking.
OQ.117/2023 10. Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Social
Security regarding the administration of Short-Term Incapacity Allowance.
OQ.122/2023 11. Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Social Security
regarding the contribution rates for Long-Term Care.
OQ.119/2023 12. Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the development of a health service framework.
OQ.112/2023 13. Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter asked a question of the Minister for
Treasury and Resources regarding the funding of multi-site healthcare facilities. OQ.114/2023 14. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for
Infrastructure regarding the Town Hopper' bus service.
OQ.116/2023 15. The Connétable of St. Martin asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services
regarding the provision of services within new healthcare facilities.
OQ.123/2023 16. Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Economic
Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the working conditions of baggage handlers at Jersey Airport.
OQ.120/2023 17. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Assistant Minister for External
Relations regarding the Russian nationals who were subject to the application of sanctions. OQ.124/2023 18. Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Social
Security regarding the use of zero-hours contracts with employees in the Island on work
permits.
OQ.108/2023 19. Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Housing and
Communities regarding the creation of a home-ownership scheme.
Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Minister for Housing and Communities answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.
The Minister for External Relations answered questions without notice from members.
Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)
The Chief Minister made a statement regarding the 2023 Annual Report of the Common Population Policy. Health and Community Services Interim Board P.19/2023
THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services entitled Health and Community Services Interim Board' (P.19/2023) and, adopting an amendment of the Minister for Health and Social Services (P.19/2023 Amd.(2)), agreed that –
in paragraph (a), after the words "Health and Community Services", there should be inserted the word "Advisory"; and
in paragraph (b), after the words "report accompanying the proposition", there should be inserted the words –
", except that within Appendix 1 –
- in the title of the Appendix, the reference to "Interim Board" should be substituted with "Advisory Board";
- in paragraph 1, the reference to the "Health and Community Services Board" should be substituted with "Health and Community Services Advisory Board";
- after paragraph 11, the following new paragraph 12 should be inserted and the subsequent paragraphs renumbered accordingly –
"12. Amendments to the terms of reference could include providing for the Board to work
across other health and community services whether or not in Jersey if the Assembly were so minded."; and
- after the current final paragraph, there should be inserted a new paragraph as follows –
"23. The Board will meet every six months with the Council of Ministers to advise the
Council on:
- key matters arising in the Department including: challenges; risks; delivery of the Minister's plan, policies and directions, and compliance with decisions of the Assembly; and
- the activities of the Board.
The requirement to meet every six months will not preclude the Board, or the Chair, meeting with the Council of Ministers at any other point if deemed appropriate by the Chief Minister, the Minister and the Chair.".
THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services, as amended, and, adopting an amendment of Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central (P.19/2023 Amd.), agreed that, after the words "report accompanying the proposition", there should be inserted the words –
", except that within Appendix 1 –
- all references to a "3-year period" should be substituted with "18-month period";
- within point 53 (b) the words "two years" should be substituted with "18 months"; and
- within point 92 the words "3 to 5 years" should be substituted with "18 months"".
THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services, as amended.
Changes in Presidency
The Bailiff retired briefly from the Chamber during consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services entitled Health and Community Services Interim Board' (P.19/2023) and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Mr. William John Charles Millow , Deputy Greffier of the States until his return.
Arrangement of public business for the present meeting
THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Ian Joseph Gorst of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter , agreed to continue meeting that day until 6.00 p.m.
Members present voted as follows –
POUR: 29 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 0
Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Deputy C.F. Labey
Deputy S.G. Luce
Deputy K.F. Morel
Deputy R.J. Ward
Deputy I. Gardiner
Deputy I.J. Gorst
Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore
Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M. Tadier
Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy S.Y. Mézec Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.B. Andrews
Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr
Deputy H.M. Miles
Deputy M.R. Scott
Deputy J. Renouf
Deputy C.D . Curtis
Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet
Deputy M.E. Millar
Deputy M.R. Ferey
Deputy R.S. Kovacs
Deputy A.F. Curtis
Deputy B. Ward
Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson
Health and Community Services Interim Board P.19/2023
THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services entitled Health and Community Services Interim Board' (P.19/2023), as amended.
Adjournment
THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 14th June 2023 to continue consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services entitled Health and Community Services Interim Board' (P.19/2023), as amended, and the other outstanding items of public business.
THE STATES rose at 5.57 p.m.
W.J.C. MILLOW Deputy Greffier of the States