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States Minutes 12 November 2024

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 12th November 2024, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir Timothy John Le Cocq .

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His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, Vice-Admiral Jeremy Paul Kyd, C.B.E. was present.  __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Connétable Michael Keith Jackson of St. Brelade – absent on States business

Connétable Richard Anthony Kingston Honeycombe of St. Ouen – ill

Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade – absent on States business

Deputy Kristina Louise Moore of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter – absent on States business Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central – ill

Deputy Lucy Kate Frances Stephenson of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter – parental responsibilities

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – remote participation

THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams. The following Members attended remotely, either for all or part of the meeting –

Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central

Deputy Hilary Louise Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity

Subordinate enactments tabled

The following enactments were tabled, namely –

Nursing Homes (2025 Fees) (Jersey) Amendment Order 2024.  R&O.62/2024. Chief Minister.

Documents presented

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024) second amendment P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(2)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(2). West of Island Planning Framework.  Add. Presented: 5th November 2024, Deputy H.M. Miles of St. Brelade .

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  third  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(3)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(3). Statistics Jersey Funding.  Add. Presented: 7th November 2024, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  fourth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(4)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(4). Jersey Public Services Ombudsperson.  Add. Presented: 7th November 2024, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  fifth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(5)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(5). Apprenticeship Support.  Add. Presented: 8th November 2024, Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  sixth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(6)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(6). New Healthcare Facilities Programme expenditure.  Add. Presented: 8th November 2024, Hospital Review Panel.

Proposed  Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): seventh amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(7)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(7). Connect Me Funding.  Add. Presented: 8th November 2024, Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour .

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  eighth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(8)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(8). Indexation of alcohol duty.  Add. Presented: 8th November 2024, Deputy H.M. Miles of St. Brelade .

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  ninth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(9)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(9). Pillar 2 Allocations.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and

Trinity .

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  tenth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(10)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(10). Termination of Pregnancy (Jersey) Law 1997 Amendments workstream.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): eleventh amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(11)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(11). Vehicle Emissions Duty.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny

Panel.

Proposed  Budget  (Government  Plan)  2025-2028  (P.51/2024):  twelfth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(12)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(12). Performance Framework.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and

Trinity .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): thirteenth amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(13)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(13). Impôt Duties – Fuel.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): fourteenth amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(14)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(14). Jersey Cheshire Homes.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): fifteenth  amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(15)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(15). Highlands College repairs.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024,  Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny

Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): sixteenth amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(16)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(16). New Office  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): seventeenth amendment. P.51/2024. (P.51/2024 Amd.(17)) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.(17). Le Squez.  Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement .

Draft  Royal  Court  and  Stamp  Duties  and  Fees  (Jersey)  Amendment  Law  202- P.67/2024. (P.67/2024) – amendment (P.67/2024 Amd.) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.Add. Presented: 29th October 2024, Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache of St. Clement .

Pets in rental properties (P.70/2024) – amendment (P.70/2024 Amd.) – Children's P.70/2024. Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.Add. Presented: 5th November 2024, Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South .

Pets in rental properties (P.70/2024) – comments.  P.70/2024. Presented: 7th November 2024, Minister for Housing.  Com.

Pets in rental properties (P.70/2024): amendment (P.70/2024 Amd.)– comments.  P.70/2024. Presented: 7th November 2024, Minister for Housing.  Amd.Com.

Draft Finance (2025 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202- (P.72/2024): amendment. (P.72/2024 P.72/2024. Amd.) – Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Amd.Add. Presented: 11th November 2024, Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny

Panel.

Draft  Single-Use  Plastics  Etc.  (Restrictions)  (Jersey)  Amendment  Law  202- P.77/2024. (P.77/2024) - Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Add. Presented: 29th October 2024, Minister for Infrastructure.

Draft Employment and Discrimination (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-. (P.78/2024) – P.78/2024. Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Add. Presented: 6th November 2024, Minister for Social Security.

Draft  Termination  of  Pregnancy  (Jersey)  Amendment  Law  202-.  (P.79/2024)   P.79/2024. Children's Rights Impact Assessment.  Add. Presented: 6th November 2024, Minister for Health and Social Services.

Commissioning of Services (R.124/2024): executive response.  R.124/2024. Presented: 5th November 2024, Public Accounts Committee.  Res.

States Assembly Annual Report 2023. R.166/2024. Presented: 28th October 2024, Privileges and Procedures Committee.  

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Purchase of Land – Pieces of Land R.167/2024. on La Grande Route de St. Jean.

Presented: 30th October 2024, Minister for Infrastructure.

Early Years Plan. R.168/2024. Presented: 30th October 2024, Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning.

Report on the Petition to exempt tax on the old age pension.  R.169/2024. Presented: 7th November 2024, Minister for Social Security.

States  Annual  Report  and  Accounts  2023  Review  (P.A.C.2/2024):  Executive  P.A.C.2/2024. Response.  Res. Presented: 30th October 2024, Public Accounts Committee.

Notification of lodged propositions

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): second amendment.  P.51/2024. West of Island Planning Framework.  Amd.(2). Lodged: 5th November 2024, Deputy H.M. Miles of St. Brelade .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): third amendment.  P.51/2024. Statistics Jersey Funding.  Amd.(3). Lodged: 7th November 2024, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): fourth amendment.  P.51/2024. Jersey Public Services Ombudsperson.  Amd.(4). Lodged: 7th November 2024, Corporate Services Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): fifth amendment.  P.51/2024. Apprenticeship Support.  Amd.(5). Lodged: 8th November 2024, Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): sixth amendment.  P.51/2024. New Healthcare Facilities Programme expenditure.  Amd.(6). Lodged: 8th November 2024, Hospital Review Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): seventh amendment.  P.51/2024. Connect Me Funding.  Amd.(7). Lodged: 8th November 2024, Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): eighth amendment.  P.51/2024. Indexation of alcohol duty.  Amd.(8). Lodged: 8th November 2024, Deputy H.M. Miles of St. Brelade .  (re-issue). Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): ninth amendment.  P.51/2024. Pillar 2 Allocations.  Amd.(9). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John, St. Lawrence and

Trinity .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): tenth amendment.  P.51/2024. Termination of Pregnancy (Jersey) Law 1997 Amendments workstream.  Amd.(10). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): eleventh amendment.  P.51/2024. Vehicle Emissions Duty.  Amd.(11). Lodged:  11th  November 2024,  Environment,  Housing  and  Infrastructure  Scrutiny

Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): twelfth amendment.  P.51/2024. Performance Framework.  Amd.(12). Lodged: 11th November 2024,   Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John, St. Lawrence and

Trinity .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): thirteenth amendment.  P.51/2024. Impôt Duties – Fuel.  Amd.(13). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): fourteenth amendment.  P.51/2024. Jersey Cheshire Homes.  Amd.(14). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North .  (re-issue).

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): fifteenth amendment.  P.51/2024. Highlands College repairs.  Amd.(15). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): sixteenth amendment.  P.51/2024. New Office  Amd.(16). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour .

Proposed Budget (Government Plan) 2025-2028 (P.51/2024): seventeenth amendment. P.51/2024. Le Squez.  Amd.(17). Lodged: 11th November 2024, Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement .

Draft  Royal  Court  and  Stamp  Duties  and  Fees  (Jersey)  Amendment  Law  202- P.67/2024. (P.67/2024) – amendment.  Amd. Lodged: 29th October 2024, Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache of St. Clement .

Pets in Rental Properties (P.70/2024) – amendment.  P.70/2024. Lodged: 5th November 2024, Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South .  Amd.

Draft Finance (2025 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202- (P.72/2024): amendment.  P.72/2024. Lodged:  11th  November 2024,  Environment,  Housing  and  Infrastructure  Scrutiny  Amd. Panel.

Amendment To Standing Orders – Miscellaneous Amendments.  P.76/2024. Lodged: 25th October 2024, Privileges and Procedures Committee.

Draft Single-Use Plastics Etc. (Restrictions) (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-. P.77/2024. Lodged: 29th October 2024, Minister for Infrastructure.


Written Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

WQ.363/2024 1. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 28th

October 2024 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the States Greffe.

WQ.364/2024 2. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 28th October

2024 to a question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding the Jersey Competition Regulatory Authority (JCRA) Annual Report 2023.

WQ.365/2024 3. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 28th October

2024 to a question asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding the status of the Performance Sports Programme.

WQ.366/2024 4. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 28th October 2024 to

a question asked by Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade regarding Accident and Emergency waiting times.

WQ.367/2024 5. The Minister for Children and Families had tabled a revised answer on 28th October 2024

to a question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding delays in the development of the Play Strategy.

WQ.368/2024 6. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 28th October

2024 to a question asked by Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement regarding Government financial support for Manche-Iles Express.

WQ.369/2024 7. The Minister for Housing had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question asked

by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding homeowners in negative equity. WQ.370/2024 8. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding stamp duty. WQ.371/2024 9. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question

asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding the Employment (Jersey)

Law 2003.

WQ.372/2024 10. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question asked by

Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity regarding the Gender Pay and Income Ratio Consultation.

WQ.373/2024 11. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 4th November

2024 to a question asked by Deputy K.L. Moore of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding a pilot scheme for 2 to 3 year-olds with additional needs at d'Auvergne Primary School.

WQ.374/2024 12. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding the Island's Carbon Neutral Roadmap.

WQ.375/2024 13. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question asked by

Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding delayed or stopped projects and workstreams.

WQ.376/2024 14. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 4th November

2024 to a question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding the

introduction of a pilot scheme for wrap around care provision at school nurseries. WQ.377/2024 15. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 4th

November 2024 to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding a recall

mechanism.

WQ.378/2024 16. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 4th

November 2024 to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade regarding work undertaken to identify any problems and inefficiencies arising from the multi-constituency representative system introduced at the last election.

WQ.379/2024 17. The Minister for Justice and Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to

a question asked by Deputy H.M. Miles of St. Brelade regarding the Explosives (Jersey) Law 1970.

WQ.380/2024 18. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question asked by

Deputy A.F. Curtis of St. Clement regarding the Government Digital Services Platform. WQ.381/2024 19. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question

asked by Deputy A.F. Curtis of St. Clement regarding the Transform programme. WQ.382/2024 20. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy A.F. Curtis of St. Clement regarding the States of Jersey

Development Company (SoJDC) 2021 Annual Report and Accounts.

WQ.383/2024 21. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question asked by

Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding Project Breakwater'.

WQ.384/2024 22. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a question asked by

Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding the current Chief Executive's contract. WQ.385/2024 23. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding Jersey licences or permits held

by scallop dredgers and divers.

WQ.386/2024 24. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 4th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John, St. Lawrence and Trinity regarding planning application permissions that included protected trees listed in the protected trees register.

WQ.387/2024 25. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 4th November

2024 to a question asked by Deputy K.L. Moore of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding equality and equity for all children and parents in the roll-out of universal funding for nursery care for 2 year-olds.

WQ.388/2024 26. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 11th November

2024 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding children excluded from schools.

WQ.389/2024 27. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 11th November

2024 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding assaults carried out by secondary school students.

WQ.390/2024 28. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 11th

November 2024 to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North regarding police investigations into States Members.

WQ.391/2024 29. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John, St. Lawrence and Trinity regarding Dividend Income.

WQ.392/2024 30. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade regarding procurement of goods and services from on-Island companies.

WQ.393/2024 31. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a question

asked by Deputy A.F. Curtis of St. Clement regarding the former Seaside Café at Grève de Lecq.

WQ.394/2024 32. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024

to a question asked by Deputy A.F. Curtis of St. Clement  regarding the Digital Care Strategy Major Project.

WQ.395/2024 33. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding Long-Term Care Benefit.

WQ.396/2024 34. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024

to a question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding the projected increase in dementia patients by 52% in 20 years' time.

WQ.397/2024 35. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 11th

November 2024 to a question asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North regarding financial and staffing resources to publish Strategy documents.

WQ.398/2024 36. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding relocation expenses. WQ.399/2024 37. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding online retailers not paying

GST.

WQ.400/2024 38. The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning had tabled an answer on 11th November

2024 to a question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding young people aged 16 to 24 who were not in employment, education or training.

WQ.401/2024 39. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement regarding draft legislation to bring hospital services under the regulatory control of the Jersey Care Commission.

WQ.402/2024 40. The Chair of the States Employment Board had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024

to a question asked by Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement regarding drug testing for public servants.

WQ.403/2024 41. The Minister for Sustainable Economic Development had tabled an answer on 11th

November 2024 to a question asked by Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement regarding the Island's ferry tender process.

WQ.404/2024 42. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024

to a question asked by Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade regarding mouth cancers. WQ.405/2024 43. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a question

asked by Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South regarding the consultancy firm appointed to

support the maintenance work at the Havre des Pas Lido and café site.

WQ.406/2024 44. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour regarding the acquisition of the new

Government Headquarters as an investment of the Social Security (Reserve) Fund. WQ.407/2024 45. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour regarding the Income Tax

Forecasting Group Report, R.130/2024.

WQ.408/2024 46. The Minister for Justice and Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to

a question asked by Deputy B.B. De S.V.M. Porée of St. Helier South  regarding the Island's work permit policy.

WQ.409/2024 47. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 11th November 2024 to a

question asked by Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour regarding stamp duty collections.

Oral Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

OQ.209/2024  1.   Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Sustainable

Economic Development regarding the provision of a ferry service for Jersey for the next 12 months.

OQ.207/2024  2.   Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure

regarding the upgrade of the Island's electricity network.

OQ.217/2024  3.   Deputy H.M. Miles of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chair of the States Employment

Board regarding the dispute between the Association of Educational Psychologists and the Government.

OQ.220/2024  4.   Deputy H.L. Jeune of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity asked a question of H.M. Attorney

General regarding potential legal action against Jersey by Britanny Ferries or DFDS. OQ.203/2024  5.   Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Social

Security regarding a trainee minimum wage rate.

OQ.210/2024  6.   Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Children and

Families regarding the progress of work on the Children and Civil Status (Amendments) (Jersey) Law 2024.

OQ.218/2024  7.   Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for

Justice and Home Affairs regarding a definition of "Modern Day Slavery" in the Government's Work Permit Policy and Procedures.

OQ.214/2024  8.   Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the new

ferry contract.

OQ.206/2024  9.   Deputy S.M. Ahier of St. Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Sustainable

Economic Development regarding Remote Gambling Operator licences.

OQ.204/2024  10.   Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social

Services regarding prescriptions of medicinal cannabis.

OQ.211/2024  11.   Deputy D.J. Warr of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure

regarding the schedule of materials maintained by Jersey Property Holdings.

OQ.213/2024  12.   Deputy K.M. Wilson of St. Clement asked a question of the Chair of the States Employment

Board regarding the rationale for moving the December pay date for States employees. OQ.215/2024  13.   Deputy J. Renouf of St. Brelade asked a question of the Minister for the Environment

regarding building a windfarm in Jersey's waters.

OQ.205/2024  14.   Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and

Resources regarding the Island's zero-ten tax system.

OQ.212/2024  15.   Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Sustainable

Economic Development regarding cost-effective freight services and sustainable market competition.

OQ.216/2024  16.   Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Justice and

Home Affairs regarding updating the Draft Crime (Prejudice and Public Disorder) (Jersey) Law.

OQ.208/2024  17.   Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Sustainable

Economic Development regarding the costs incurred by the Government in extending the provision of a ferry service.

OQ.219/2024  18.   Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for

Justice and Home Affairs regarding updating the Island's Work Permit Policy.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for Health and Social Services answered questions without notice from Members. The Minister for International Development answered questions without notice from Members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from Members.

Urgent Oral Question –

Deputy Jonathan Renouf of St. Brelade asked the following question of the Minister for Sustainable Economic Development which the Bailiff had allowed in accordance with Standing Order 15 relating to urgent oral questions –

"Will the Minister explain how he justifies more than £5m of direct grants to Visit Jersey, Ports of Jersey, the rural and marine support scheme and others, when the main purpose of the scheme has always been advertised as to improve productivity?"

Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for Education and Lifelong Learning made a statement regarding the Early Years Plan. Draft Family Division Registrar (Change of Status and Title) (Jersey) Law 202- P.56/2024

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Family Division Registrar (Change of Status and Title) (Jersey) Law 202- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant Scrutiny Panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 3.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Family Division Registrar (Change of Status and Title) (Jersey) Law 202-'.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy M.B. Andrews

Draft Royal Court and Stamp Duties and Fees (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- P.67/2024

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Royal Court and Stamp Duties and Fees (Jersey) Amendment Law 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42   CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant Scrutiny Panel had indicated that it did not wish to  scrutinise  the  draft  legislation,  commenced  consideration  of  Articles  1  to  4,  and,  adopting  an amendment of Deputy Sir Philip Martin Bailhache of St. Clement (P.67/2024 Amd.), agreed that Article 2(3) should be deleted and the subsequent paragraphs renumbered accordingly.

THE STATES adopted Articles 1 to 4, as amended, and Schedules 1 to 3.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42   CONTRE: 0  ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the Royal Court and Stamp Duties and Fees (Jersey) Amendment Law 202-'.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy M.B. Andrews

Pets in rental properties P.70/2024

THE  STATES  commenced  consideration  of  a  proposition  of   Deputy  Catherine  Dolores   Curtis  of St. Helier Central entitled Pets in rental properties' (P.70/2024) and, adopting an amendment of Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South (P.70/2024 Amd.) agreed that the words "for approval" should be deleted; that, for the words "any necessary legislative changes to ensure", there should be substituted the words "guidance to tenants and landlords so"; that, after the word "permitted", there should be inserted "to request"; and that, for the word "legislation", there should be substituted the word "guidance".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 24   CONTRE: 17  ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier   Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence   Connétable of Grouville Connétable of Trinity   Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Peter   Deputy G.P. Southern Connétable of St. Martin   Deputy C.F. Labey

Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy M.B. Andrews


  Deputy L.M.C. Doublet

  Deputy R.J. Ward   Deputy C.S. Alves

  Deputy S.Y. Mézec

  Deputy T.A. Coles

  Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée

  Deputy M.R. Scott

  Deputy C.D . Curtis

  Deputy R.E. Binet

  Deputy A. Howell

  Deputy T.J.A. Binet

  Deputy R.S. Kovacs


THE STATES, adopting the proposition of Deputy Catherine Dolores Curtis of St. Helier Central , as amended, requested the Minister for Housing to bring forward, before 31st March 2025, guidance to tenants and landlords so that any tenant of a rental property would be permitted to request to keep, or acquire, a pet or pets unless the landlord of the property provided a reasonable reason for not permitting this, and for the criteria determining these reasons to be defined within the relevant guidance.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 29   CONTRE: 10  ABSTAIN: 1 Connétable of St. Helier   Connétable of St. Clement   Deputy M.R. Scott

Connétable of St. Lawrence   Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of Trinity   Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Peter   Deputy C.F. Labey

Connétable of St. Martin   Deputy S.G. Luce

Connétable of St. John   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat

Connétable of St. Saviour   Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy G.P. Southern   Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet   Deputy A. Howell

Deputy K.F. Morel   Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée

Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, the following members declared an interest in the subject of the proposition of Deputy Catherine Dolores Curtis of St. Helier Central , in that they, or their partner, were landlords –

Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin

Deputy Kirsten Francis Morel of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity Deputy Inna Gardiner of St. Helier North

Deputy Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf of St. Saviour

Deputy Alexander Frederick Curtis of St. Clement

Deputy David James Warr of St. Helier South

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Mary Rose Scott of St. Brelade that the Assembly continue the meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 17   CONTRE: 22  ABSTAIN: 1

Deputy C.F. Labey   Connétable of St. Lawrence   Connétable of St. Martin Deputy S.G. Luce   Connétable of Trinity

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet   Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy S.M. Ahier   Connétable of St. John

Deputy R.J. Ward   Connétable of St. Clement

Deputy S.Y. Mézec   Connétable of Grouville

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache   Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy T.A. Coles   Connétable of St. Saviour

Deputy H.M. Miles   Deputy G.P. Southern

Deputy M.R. Scott   Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy C.D . Curtis   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat

  Deputy C.S. Alves

  Deputy L.J. Farnham

  Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

  Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée

  Deputy D.J. Warr

  Deputy J. Renouf

  Deputy M.E. Millar

  Deputy M.R. Ferey

  Deputy B. Ward

  Deputy K.M. Wilson

  Deputy M.B. Andrews

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 13th November 2024 for the consideration of the e-petition entitled Make States Old Age Pensions exempt from Tax'.

THE STATES rose at 4:23 p.m.

L.-M. HART Greffier of the States