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Economic Affairs - Approved Panel Minutes - 5 June 2006

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Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel Meeting No. 14

5th June 2006

1st Floor Meeting Room, Morier House

Present Deputy G. P. Southern , Chairman

Deputy A. Breckon (for item 4 only)

Connétable M. K. Jackson (not present for items 1 and 3) Deputy J. A. Martin

Deputy K. C. Lewis

Apologies

Absent

In attendance Carol Le Quesne, Scrutiny Officer

Nathan Fox, Scrutiny Officer

 

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Agenda matter

Action

1.

Minutes of Meetings.

The minutes of Meeting No. 11 of 28th April 2006 and Meeting No. 12 of 3rd May 2006 were approved.

Notes of meetings with Dr. C. McPhail, the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. C. Vautier, and Mr. P. Donovan were also approved.

 

2.

Chairman's Committee 19.05.06

Item 6

Briefing on the role of Scrutiny Officers

The Panel received Mrs. K Tremellen-Frost, Scrutiny Manager, to brief  members  on  the  role  of  Scrutiny  Officers,  following  a discussion on this matter by the Chairman's Committee.

The Panel was informed that differing expectations existed within the membership of Scrutiny as to the role of officers. The Panel was referred to the job description of the role, and the noted that officers were considered to be working alongside' members.

The Panel and the Scrutiny Manager agreed that this Panel was an example of effective co-operation between members and officers, and that neither had any points of concern to raise in this regard.

 

3.

Progress of the fulfilment' review

The Panel noted that it was now aware of numerous companies that had received time-limited licences to trade, and that more might have been issued. The Panel was interested in the effect that these were having on companies, and what plans they had made to continue their business in the future.

Officers were directed to approach several companies with the intention of inviting them to a future meeting of the Panel in order to discuss these matters.

 

 

Officers provided to the Panel files containing all information so far received in respect of this review, collated into a single file for ease of reference.

 

4.

The forthcoming debate on the Panel's projet P.61/12006

The Panel noted that its projet entitled Jersey Post Incorporation: cost/benefit  analysis,  investigation  and  responsibilities  of JCRA' (P.61/2006) was to be debated by the States on 6th June 2006.

The Panel considered a document for the information of States members  received  from  the  Economic  Development  Minister detailing the rebuttal' to the projet.

It considered that this debate was significant to the future of a vital public utility, and that it would not be appropriate for debate to be curtailed prematurely. The Chairman therefore sought approval from the Panel to request that the States suspend Standing Order 84 (Proposal to close debate) as permitted under Standing Order 80 (Proposal to suspend Standing Order). The Panel approved this course of action.

The Panel also considered that to might become necessary to conduct an element of the session in camera' as this would allow detailed figures in connection with Jersey Post's current operations and predicted future profits to be made available to the assembly. The Panel agreed that a member should call fro the session to move into camera as permitted under Standing Order 81 at the appropriate time.

The Chairman intended to contact the independent advisor to the Economic Development Minister and the Treasury and Resources Department., Mr. R. Syvret, in order to determine if he might have any further information pertinent to the debate.

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5.

Officers evaluation of the Postal' review

The Panel noted a review produced by the Scrutiny Officers in respect  of  their  experience  of  the  review  process.  The  Panel approved  the  points  made  therein,  and  noted  two  points  in particular, that the period of time available to conduct the review was  extremely  short,  and  that  there  were  difficulties  in  the interpretation of accounts.

Although amendments could be made to existing projets with a two week  lodging  period, stand-alone' projets  from  Scrutiny  were required to be lodged for six weeks. Panels could have matters referred to them for a period of four sessions, usually spanning eight weeks.

Therefore, if a matter was referred to a Panel, which decided to lodge  a stand–alone' (non-amending)  projet  of  its  own  for concurrent debate, it would have a period of two weeks in which to undertake a review and develop the projet.

In order to correct this disparity, officers were directed to prepare a paper for the approval of the Panel to be passed to the Chairman's

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Committee.  This  was  to  request  the  Chairman's  Committee  to recommend to the Privileges and Procedures Committee that it

bring a projet to the States to increase the number of sessions that matters could be referred to a Panel to six, giving a period of twelve weeks to carry out a review, and to reduce to two weeks the necessary period of lodging for propositions from Scrutiny which NJF specifically related to matters referred to a Panel under Standing Order 72 (1) or (2).

The Panel also decided to address the concerns over accountancy advice. Officers were directed to make enquiries as to the cost engaging a firm of audit accountants to provide occasional advice to  Panels  undertaking  reviews  involving  accounts.  The  Panel directed that several companies be approached in order to ensure that value for money would be obtained.

This  draft  report  was to be  submitted  to  the  Panel  at  its  next meeting.

6. Documents for possible consultant analyst

The Committee recalled that its Postal' review had called for an independent cost / benefit analysis of incorporation prior to action being taken to remove Jersey Post from States control.

The Panel wished to ensure that this could be carried out at the minimum  cost  to  the  island.  To  this  end,  it  noted  a  list  of  all documentation supplied by Jersey Post and the Department to be made available to any consultant tasked to carry out a further cost- benefit analysis of the incorporation of Jersey Post.

The Panel clarified that it would not violate confidentiality to provide any analyst with a list of the titles of documentation, while allowing them to obtain the documents themselves.

Signed

. Chairman Deputy G. P. Southern Economic Affairs Panel


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