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Education and Home Affairs - Approved Panel Minutes - 20 February 2006

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Social Affairs Scrutiny Panel

Meeting 7

Date: 20th February 2006 Location: Le Capelain Room, States Building

Present Deputy F.J. Hill, B.E.M., Chairman

Deputy J.A. Martin, Vice Chairman Deputy D.W. Mezbourian

Deputy A.E. Pryke

Deputy S. Pitman

Apologies

Absent

In attendance Mr. C. Ahier , Scrutiny Officer

Mr. W. Millow , Scrutiny Officer

 

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Agenda matter Action

 

1. Minutes of Previous Meeting

The Panel approved the minutes of the meeting of 6th February 2006 with one amendment to Item 1 relating to the statement

made in the States following a decision to refer an item to Scrutiny. It was agreed to add that the statement should "say whether the Panel will scrutinise the matter or not."

[06/02/06, Item 2]

[06/02/06, Item 2]

[06/02/06, Item 4g]

[06/02/06, Item 6]

2. Matters Arising from the Minutes

The  Panel  noted  that  the  correspondence  from  Advocate  C. Lakeman  relating  to Sexual  Offences  (Jersey)  Law  200- (P.196/2005) had been received electronically.

The Panel noted that work on the powers of subpoena were still in progress. It questioned whether these powers would apply only to Scrutiny panels or whether Ministers would be granted similar powers. The Officers were requested to clarify the situation.

CA/WM

The  Panel  noted  that  it  would  be  meeting  with  Senator  B.E. Shenton at 10:00am on 6th March 2006. It further noted that

Senator Shenton had only been invited to discuss the issues of Early Years Education and Income Support. He had not been invited to form part of a sub-panel.

The  Panel  noted  that  a  formal  request  for  feedback  on  the Scrutiny website (www.statesassembly.gov.je/scrutiny/frame.asp) had come from the Chairmen's Committee. It also noted  that the Committee  had  considered  the  matter  of  a  notice-board  to advertise  Scrutiny panel meetings. However,  it had  made  no decision as the person responsible for the board had been unable to meet with the Committee.

 

3. Other Matters Arising

The Panel noted that the Council of Ministers had established a sub-group of Ministers to steer matters of social policy and that Mr.  I.  Skinner  had  been  seconded  to  the  Chief  Minister's Department to work on this subject. The Panel agreed to write to the Chief Minister to ask what consideration had been given to the relationship between the Panel and the new sub-group. It also agreed to request information on the work of the sub-group.

CA/WM

 

The  Panel  noted  that  Scrutiny  Topic  Scoping  Documents  for those Topics chosen for review had not been uploaded on to the Scrutiny website.

The  Panel  received  a  report  from  the  Chairman  on  the [06/02/06, Chairmen's Committee meeting of 17th February 2006. It noted

Item 2] that the Committee had agreed to split the Social Affairs Scrutiny

Panel when sufficient manpower and financial resources could be

allocated. It was further noted that an approach would need to be

made to the States to obtain this allocation.

The Panel noted that the Chairmen's Committee had considered the involvement of Deputy S. Pitman in the proposed review of the Youth Service. It was accepted that whilst Deputy Pitman had a strong interest in the subject, this did not equate to a conflict of interest.

The Panel considered the relationship between Scrutiny and the media. It was informed that Deputy D.W. Mezbourian had met with Mr. C. Bright, editor of the Jersey Evening Post, and that the former had  suggested  a meeting  between  Mr.  Bright  and the Chairmen's Committee. The Panel noted that the relationship between  Scrutiny  and  the  media  was  a  subject  of  ongoing discussion for the Chairmen's Committee.

The Panel received the following documentation:

Fire  and  Rescue  Service:  Integrated  Risk  Management Annual Action Plan 2006

The Panel received the following documents and noted they were confidential and not for public viewing:

States of Jersey Customs & Immigration Service: Business Continuity Plan

Income Support (Jersey) Law 200- (Draft 1)

Income Support (Jersey) Law 200- (Draft 2)

The Panel considered whether it should co-ordinate questions for those  sessions  in  States  sittings  where  Ministers  receive questions  without  notice. It  was  agreed  that  this  would  be discussed at the next meeting.

  1. Work Programme
  1. General

The  Chairman  reported  that  the  Chairmen's  Committee  had approved  the  Panel's  proposed  Work  Programme  at  the Committee meeting on 17th February 2006. The Committee had

expressed reservations regarding the ambition of the Panel and whether there were sufficient manpower resources to achieve this ambition.

The Panel noted that the initial reviews would be Income Support and GP Out-of-Hours. It further noted that work on these reviews was due to begin immediately.

The Panel agreed that it was desirable to use one advert to give

the  Terms  of  Reference  and  call  for  evidence  for  both  initial CA/WM reviews. The Officers were requested to initially draft one advert

but  to  revert  to  single  adverts  for  each  review  should  they subsequently deem it more appropriate.

The Panel agreed that it was too early to consider potential dates

for Public Hearings but that this matter should be placed on to the

next Agenda. CA/WM [26/01/06], The Panel agreed that each Minister within its remit should be

Item 2] contacted regarding the Panel's decisions relating to its Work CA/WM

Programme.

  1. Income Support

The Panel agreed that Deputy J.A. Martin would act as Lead Member, with Deputy S. Pitman as Assistant Lead Member, for the above review.

The Panel considered the interest of Deputy G.P. Southern in this

topic and agreed to invite him to its meeting on 6th March 2006 in CA/WM order to discuss what he could contribute to the review.

The Panel noted that a sub-panel could be formed for this review. It noted that Standing Order 139 provided the following guidelines for the establishment of Scrutiny sub-panels:

  1. A scrutiny panel may establish a sub-panel to review,

consider, scrutinize or report or liaise upon any particular matter.

  1. A scrutiny panel may appoint an elected member who is not a member of the scrutiny panel or a Minister or Assistant Minister to be a member of a sub-panel.
  2. A scrutiny panel may not allocate any of its resources to a sub-panel without the agreement of the chairmen's committee.

The  Panel  further  noted  the  lack  of  precedent  regarding  the creation and working of sub-panels and agreed that the matter would be discussed at the next meeting.

  1. GP Out-of Hours

The Panel agreed that Deputy A.E. Pryke would act as Lead Member,  with   Deputy  D.W.   Mezbourian  as  Assistant  Lead Member for the above review..

The Panel agreed that it would not create a sub-panel for this review.

  1. Youth Service

[06/02/06, The Panel noted that Mrs. S. Costigan, Principal Youth Officer,

Item 4f] would be invited to its meeting on 20th March 2006 in order to CA/WM

discuss the Youth Service.

  1. Responding to Drug Use

The  Panel  noted  that  it  had  received  information  from  the [06/02/06, Department of Home Affairs following its request for an update on

Item 5] the response to Recommendation 18 of Responding to Drug Use (SR1/2004). It  agreed  that  this  information  did  not  provide  a

suitable update and that the Panel should therefore meet with the

person responsible for implementing Recommendation 18. CA/WM The Panel requested it receive a copy of Health Needs Analysis

HM Prison La Moye carried out Dr R. Wool in 2004. CA/WM

The Panel noted correspondence received from Drs. G. Callander

and J. Bailey. It agreed that the correspondence reflected the confusion  that  had  arisen  regarding  the  role  of  Scrutiny. It subsequently  agreed  that  the  Panel  could  not  be  held accountable for the withdrawal of funding for training of General Practitioners. The Panel agreed that correspondence should be

sent to the Minister for Health and Social Services advising him of CA/WM the matter and asking that the Panel be kept informed of any

response to the concerns raised by Drs. Callander and Bailey. It

further agreed that the Panel should write to Drs. Callander and

Bailey to inform them of the Panel's actions.

  1. Smoking Ban

The Panel noted correspondence received from Mr. G. Fletcher,

Chief  Executive  of  the  Jersey  Hospitality  Association  (JHA), regarding  the  proposal  for  a  partial  ban  on  smoking  in  the workplace. It agreed that the Panel would write to the Minister for

Health and Social Services to inform him of the concerns of the

JHA  and  to  request  that  the  Panel  be  kept  informed  of  the Department's work in this area. The Panel further agreed that the

Panel should write to the Minister for Economic Development to CA/WM make him aware of the concerns raised by Mr. Fletcher. The

Panel also agreed a response should be sent to Mr. Fletcher informing him of the Panel's actions.

  1. Sexual Offences (Jersey) Law 200- (P.196/2005)

The Panel noted the promise made by the Minister for Home [06/02/06, Affairs (during her Public Hearing with the Corporate Services

Item 4e] Scrutiny Panel on 16th February 2006) that legislation regarding

abuse of a position of trust would be brought forward. The Panel

agreed  to  write  to  the  Minister  to  ask  whether  the  Panel's recommendations  (communicated  by  the  Chairman  in  his CA/WM statement  to  the  States  on  31st  January  2006)  would  be

addressed.

  1. Panel Members' Contact Details

The Panel agreed it would provide the Officers with full contact details. It received clarification that details would not be released into the public domain without prior permission from the Member concerned.

  1. Public Meeting

The  Panel  noted  that  the  Environment  Scrutiny  Panel  had [06/02/06, arranged  a  public  meeting  for  2nd  March  2006. It  therefore

Item 4] decided to postpone its own meeting from 2nd March 2006 to 15th

March 2006. The Officers were requested to check whether the CA/WM Town Hall would be available for this alternative date. The Panel

would prepare for the Public Meeting at its meeting on 6th March 2006.

The Panel noted that the purpose of the meeting would be to inform the Public of the Panel's responsibilities, present the Work Programme for 2006 and receive suggestions for Review Topics from the Public.

The  Panel  also  noted  that  a  bundle  of  information  could  be provided to members of the Public who attend the meeting. The CA/WM

Officers were requested to prepare a display that would present

the Panel to the Public.

The Panel agreed that a Press Release should be sent to the [06/02/06, media  that  set  out  the  Panel's  agreed  Work  Programme  and CA/WM

Item 4] provide advance notice of the Public Meeting. A separate advert

would be placed closer to the date of the Meeting.

The Panel noted the cost of advertising in 24Se7en. It further noted that it would be of interest to see costing estimates for advertising through Channel 103.

  1. Forthcoming Propositions

The Panel agreed it would not seek to review Cigarette Lighter Refill Canisters – Sale to Minors (P.218/2005).

[06/02/06, The Panel deferred any decision on a potential review of the Item 3] proposals to develop the Stafford Hotel site into a private hospital

pending the States decision on Private Hospital Development: Scrutiny Review (P.221/2005).

  1. Future Meetings

The Panel noted that the training day on Friday 24th February [06/02/06, 2006 would begin at 8:15am.

Item 8]

The Panel agreed that it would meet in Le Capelain Room, States Building for the next two meetings but that discussion of future locations would occur at the next meeting.

The  Panel  noted  that  the  next  meeting  would  take  place  at 9:30am on Monday 6th March in the Le Capelain Room, States

Building.

Signed Date ..

Chairman, Social Affairs Panel