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Environment Scrutiny Panel

Meeting No. 21a

13th July 2006

Le Capelain Room, States Building

Part A (Open)

Present Deputy R.C. Duhamel (Chairman)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (Vice Chairman) (for a time) Connétable K. A. Le Brun of St Mary

Deputy S. Power

Apologies Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier

Absent

In attendance I. Clarkson, Scrutiny Officer

M. Robbins, Scrutiny Officer

 

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Agenda matter

Action

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Minutes

The Minutes of the meetings held on 26th and 29th June 2006, having been circulated previously, were taken as read and were confirmed.

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Matters Arising

There were no matters arising from the Minutes of the meetings held on 26th and 29th June 2006.

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(Item 1 (B) 13/07/06)

Transport Policy – Taxis

The Panel welcomed a delegation consisting of Mr. B. Vibert and Mr. R. Le Fustec, representing the Federation of Controlled Taxi Drivers.

Mr.   Vibert  and  Mr.  Le  Fustec  advised  that  they  had  sought  a meeting with the Panel because their association disagreed with remarks attributed to Deputy G.W.J. de Faye, Minister for Transport and Technical Services, to the effect that the existing taxi and cab services in the Island were a shambles'. They further expressed reservations regarding the Minister's approach towards reform of the taxi and cab industry in general. It was suggested that the Minister  had  instigated  an  inappropriate  policy  of  deterring  the practice  of  drivers  sharing  a  licensed  taxi  (known  as double- shifting') and  that  the  current  policy  was  being  applied  in  an inconsistent manner. It was further suggested that the Jersey Taxi Drivers Association was receiving preferential treatment from the Minister and his department.

The Panel invited Mr. Vibert and Mr. Le Fustec to make a written submission to the Panel within 7 days summarizing the issues that the Federation of Controlled Taxi Drivers wished to see reviewed.

Mr. Vibert and Mr. Le Fustec, having been thanked by the Panel for their attendance, withdrew from the meeting.

The Panel subsequently welcomed Mr. D. Warr en, Mr D. Le Corre and  Mr.  K.  McCreery,  representing  the  Jersey  Taxi  Drivers Association (JTDA).

The Panel was advised that the JTDA also held concerns regarding the approach of the Minister for Transport and Technical Service to

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taxi  and  cab  reform.  It  was  suggested  that  the  Minister  was dictating to the Association through his officers and that a proposed policy  of  introducing  a single  telephone number,  through which customers could secure the services of a taxi, was flawed. The JTDA considered that the service provided by its members was of high  quality  and  that  its  charges  were  generally  30  per  cent cheaper than those levied by cab drivers. Moreover, it contended that research undertaken by the publication Private Hire and Taxi Monthly' showed that the rates charged by Jersey taxi drivers were lower than 65 of the 111 councils or regions surveyed across the British Isles, despite the comparatively high cost of living in the Island. Finally, it was contended that the alleged support of the Federation of Controlled Taxi Drivers for double-shifting of licensed taxis was encouraging abuse of the licensing system.

The  Panel  invited  the  JTDA  representatives  to  make  a  written submission to the Panel within 7 days summarizing the issues that the  Association  wished  to  see  reviewed.  In  the  event  that  a submission was received, Deputy R.C. Duhamel advised that the Panel would be prepared in the first instance to invite the Minister for Transport and Technical Services to a Panel meeting with a view to brokering a suitable agreement on policy.

Mr. D. Warr en, Mr D. Le Corre and Mr. K. McCreery, having been thanked  by  the  Panel  for  their  attendance,  withdrew  from  the meeting.

The Panel held a further discussion in private session on issues affecting the taxi and cab industry. It subsequently deferred further consideration  of  the  matter  until  such  time  as  the  requested submissions had been received.

 

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Items to Note

The Panel noted the following items

  1. A  Chairmen's  Committee  briefing  sheet  concerning outcomes from a meeting held on 30th June 2006.
  1. A letter, dated 5th July 2006, from the Assistant Director – Environmental Policy concerning the Integrated Coastal Zone Management Strategy entitled Making the Most of Jersey's Coast'.

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5.

(Item 4 29/06/06)

Work Programme – Design of Homes

The  Panel  received  an  oral  update  from   Deputy  S.  Power concerning progress made on the Design of Homes review.

Deputy Power advised that he wished to secure dedicated officer time in the week beginning 31st July 2006. He suggested that recent public hearings held as part of the Planning Process review had in fact yielded a significant amount of evidence for the Design of Homes review. Having considered the evidence obtained so far, Deputy Power suggested to the Panel that the scope of the review should expand to allow for analysis of –

  1. the success, in environmental, economic and social terms, of residential developments completed during the previous 25 years.
  1. the likely success, in environmental, economic and social terms, of current building projects, and
  1. the path that Jersey should take in the future.

He added that the review should cover context, internal design matters and external design issues in detail.

Deputy R.C. Duhamel commented that the original purpose of the review had been to consider minimum room sizes and policies

 

governing use of space within homes, as well as to review the policy  on  residential  parking  standards.  He  suggested  that  the revised scope of the review as proposed by Deputy Power was significantly larger than the original review proposal.

The  Panel  agreed  to  defer  further  consideration  of  the  revised SP / RD /KLB / scope of the review to a future meeting. It further noted that the IC / MR

Design  of  Homes  Working  Group  would  consider  proposed

revisions to the scope of the review at its next meeting on 17th July

2006.

Turning to the matter of a series of proposed fact finding visits to the U.K., Austria and Sweden, the Panel was advised that officers had  begun  to  investigate  the  cost  of  the  visits.  Preliminary indications were that the cost of taking the Panel, Mr. D. Mason and one officer was likely to exceed £18,500. In the event that only the 3 Design of Homes Working Group members attended with Mr. Mason and one officer, the cost was still very likely to exceed £13,800. It was clarified that the Panel's budget for 2006 could currently accommodate a series of visits costing less than £20,000; however, the financial position might change significantly in the event that the Panel chose to launch any further reviews during the current  year  or  to  modify  the  planned  programme  of  work  on existing  reviews.  The  Panel  was  reminded  that £10,000  of  its budget for 2006 had been used to provide funding for the Public Accounts Committee. Moreover, the Chairmen's Committee Public Engagement Group was likely to request funding from each Panel IC to support its ongoing work to raise the profile of Scrutiny.

The Panel noted the position. It agreed that it remained committed to the principle of undertaking the series of site visits and, further, that Senator F.E. Cohen, Minister of Planning and Environment, and Senator T.J. Le Main, Minister of Housing, should be formally invited to accompany the Panel on the visits, on the understanding that any costs arising from the attendance of the Ministers should be incurred by the Ministers' own departments. It then deferred further consideration of the matter pending receipt of a detailed itinerary, and a further presentation, from Mr. D. Mason.

Finally,   Deputy  Duhamel  reported  that  the  Planning  and Environment  Department  had  invited  the  Panel  to  sponsor Architecture  Week', which  was  due  to  take  place  in  the  week beginning  2nd  October  2006.  He  advised  that  the  Panel  was requested to provide funding in the sum of £5,000. In return for that sponsorship, Panel members would be invited to speak at several events, take part in discussion groups and set out a display or a series of displays in containers to be laid out in the Royal Square.

Officers  advised  the  Panel  that  a  formal  written  invitation concerning Architecture Week had not yet been received by the IC

Scrutiny Office. Accordingly the full terms and conditions of the sponsorship offer were unclear.

The Panel agreed to defer further consideration of the matter until such time as formal correspondence had been received. In the intervening  period,  officers  were  instructed  to  make  further enquiries of the Planning and Environment Department regarding detailed plans for the event.

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains was not present for this item. 6 Work Programme – Waste Recycling

(Item 6 The Panel received an oral update from Deputy R.C. Duhamel 29/06/06) concerning  progress  made  on  the  Waste  Recycling  review.  He reported that preliminary work on the St. Helier Zero Waste Trial

 

had now commenced and that the actual trial would commence in the week beginning 17th July 2006.

Deputy  Duhamel  subsequently  reported  on  his  efforts,  in  his capacity as a private member, to assist Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire in the  matter  of  investigating  alternative  composting  solutions.  He advised  that  approximately  8  people,  including  Mr.  T.   Binet  of Jersey Royal (Potato Marketing) Limited, had now been identified as being more than willing to assist in providing an alternative method of processing green waste.

Also on the matter of composting, Deputy Duhamel informed the Panel that he had instructed the Scrutiny Office to begin organizing a composting technology exhibition, to be held in September 2006. He advised that a series of companies were to be invited to display their composting products at the exhibition.

Finally, Deputy Duhamel advised that he had invited Mr. A. Haden- Taylor to address the Waste Working Group at its meeting on 14th July 2006.

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains was not present for this item.

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Composting facilities at La Collette, St. Helier : cessation (P.76/2006)

The Panel recalled that P.76/2006, as lodged by Deputy G.C.L. Baudains,  had  been  listed  for  debate  on  18th  July  2006. Consideration  was  given  to  the  necessity  of  debating  the proposition, given that the working party chaired by Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire was expected to propose a viable alternative composting solution in early course.

The Panel declined to comment formally on the proposition. Deputy G.C.L. Baudains was not present for this item.

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Time and date of next meeting.

The Panel agreed to meet at 9.30am on Thursday 27th July 2006 in Le Capelain Room, States Building.

 

Signed Date

.. Chairman, Environment Panel