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Environment - Approved Panel Minutes - 2 February 2007

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Environment Scrutiny Panel Meeting No. 40

2nd February 2007 Blampied Room

Present Deputy R.C. Duhamel (Chairman) (RD)

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains (Vice Chairman) (GB) Connétable K. A. Le Brun of St Mary (KB) Deputy P. V. F. Le Claire (PC)

Deputy S. Power (SP)

Apologies

In attendance M. Robbins, Scrutiny Officer (MR)

J. Richardson Transport and Technical Services Chief Officer. (JR)

Time Started 11.00 am

 

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Agenda matter

Action

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Business Plan of Transport and Technical Services

The Panel welcomed Deputy G. de Faye, Minister for Transport and Technical Services (GdF) and Mr J. Richardson, Chief Officer of the Transport and Technical Services Department. It was noted that the purpose of the meeting was to discuss the Integrated Travel and Transport Plan for Jersey 2007 to 2011 and the Business Plan for the Transport  and  Technical  Services  Department.  The  discussion covered the following areas –

  • The Panel noted that a letter sent to the Minister on 10th November  related  to  the  use  of  Non-Petroleum  powered

vehicles had not received a reply. Mr Richardson apologised for the lack of response and ensured the Panel that they would receive a reply.

The section of the Integrated Travel and Transport Plan numbered 2.3.1 entitled Rickshaws' was raised as the Panel considered it to be short on detail. The Minister advised the Panel that the process was at the consultative stage and the document was in draft so he would consider any amendments put to him. Overall, hybrid and electrical vehicles were to be encouraged.

  • Details of the priorities of work within the Business Plan are within the Summery of Key Objectives and Priorities'.
  • Car parks had a fund allocated by a previous Committee, of which the States agreed a £150,000 spending on a traffic related matter. Other than that one withdrawal, the fund was ring fenced for use on the car parks. Work towards suicide prevention came out of general maintenance funding.
  • The Sunshine Hotel Site was not ideal for a further car park due to its access and location.
  • Minden  Place  was  due  for  renewal  and  was  to  be demolished. Although it was the most popular car park due to its location, it was old and narrow and considered insufficient for today's needs. Part of the St Helier regeneration Scheme is to replace Minden Place and Gas Place car parks with one new one in the same area.

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  • The Minister confirmed that control of the car parks was to remain with the Transport and Technical Services Department and that although there had been dialogue with NCP, there had been no interest in the company becoming involved with Jersey car parks due to the low charges currently in force for parking.  The  Minister  would  not  entertain  the  concept  of handing over control of parking to the private sector, however, there were no problems working with people who wished to provide private parking.
  • The  cost  of  building  parking  spaces  in  Jersey  was approximately £10,000 to £15,000 per space above ground and £20,000 plus per space below ground. People in Jersey still  seemed  to  believe  that  parking  should  be  free.  The Minister intended to move forward in relation to charging with consideration to holding or reducing charges in low use areas.
  • Parking  cards  were  considered  inflexible  and  a  greater variety of charges can be used with other systems.
  • The Department  were to  examine  the  wheelchair  access signs in Pier Road Car Park. The Panel noted that the car park had been built some time ago and was not designed to wheelchair standards.
  • The Department had looked at Sky Parks' where vehicles are  parked  in  vertical  stacks  but they  tended  to  be  very expensive  and  the  Panel  accepted  that  delays  were  a common problem at peak periods.
  • Relating  to  the  consultation  between  the  Ministers  for Planning  and  Environment  and  Transport  and  Technical Services, it was noted that both Ministers were part of the same working groups for the regeneration of St Helier and spoke  regularly  of  all  matters  pertaining  to  regeneration. Deputy de Faye was particularly satisfied that there was now a more holistic approach than had been the case in the past.
  • The Esplanade Car Park was to maintain 525 public spaces during the regeneration process of the area although there was also to be some private parking.
  • The Minister was considering environmental taxes such as the possible replacement of vehicle registration duty with a CO emissions tax. Any money so gained would benefit the transport area such as new bus routes or safer school routes with  consideration  also  to  spending  on  other  environment matters.

Deputy Power retired from the meeting.

  • Concerns about the quality of discharges in to St Aubins Bay led the Minister to explain that in general terms he was very content with the quality of such discharges, however it was noted  that  there  had  been  occasional  pollution  incidents mainly caused by mechanical breakdowns. The Panel also noted that test procedures were carried out which followed open wastewater procedures and EU protocols of levels of discharge. 20 to 30 tests were done on a weekly basis with a Regulator attending at regular and random intervals. Further that the Regulator was to be notified of any pollution incidents and had been so notified in the past. The Regulator then decides on any action such as closing the beach or public signage and reports to the Attorney General who decides whether a prosecution is required.
  • The Panel were reminded that the Minister had enormous powers in relation to the taxi industry. With powers to regulate fares and to add any conditions he saw fit, he had the power to  reorganise  the  industry  in  a  very  dictatorial  fashion. However, the Minister was of the opinion that a more suitable way  forward  might  contain  an  element  of  reasonableness from both sides. He would like to resolve these issues within his tenure. There would be time for both Scrutiny and the Industry to be involved in the resolution process.
  • The  Minister  welcomed  the  Environment  Scrutiny  Panel examining the high level policies such as the Waste Police which is understood to be at report drafting stage and the Transport Policy. The Auditor General will be looking at the busses during the summer and the Panel may consider that a suitable time to also be involved. The Panel noted that the department would be re-examining the Liquid Waste Strategy in April and some solutions for that may be radical. There is also a recognised problem with regulations regarding tight tanks.  This  has  created  some  disparity  and  the  tankering operation is being heavily subsidised at this time.

The Panel thanked the Minister for his attendance and the Minister and Chief Officer retired.

At 1245 the meeting ended.

RD. GB. KB. PC. SP. GdF. JR. MR.

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Chairman, Environment Panel