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Telecoms Privatisation - Economic Affairs - Approved Sub-Panel Minutes - 12 October 2007

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Economic Affairs Scrutiny Sub-Panel (Telecoms Privatisation)

PUBLIC MEETING Record of Meeting

Date: 12th October 2007

Meeting Number: 14

Present Deputy G. P. Southern , Chairman

Deputy J.G. Reed

Deputy G.C.L. Baudains

Deputy J. A. Martin

Apologies

Absent

In attendance Mrs. E. Kingston-Walsh, Scrutiny Officer

 

Ref Back

Agenda matter

Action

1.

Timescale

The  Sub-Panel  noted  the  debate  date  for  the  Proposition

P153/2007 Jersey Telecom: Proposed Sale was 20th November 2007.

The Sub-Panel considered that the given date would not give sufficient time to do justice to a 292 page Proposition. The Sub- Panel agreed that a full review of the Proposition was needed to assess if the Sub-Panel's previous recommendations had been accurately and appropriately addressed.

The Sub-Panel considered the balance between JT's need for certainty and the workload required to assess the feasibility of the promises with in the sale principles.

The Sub-Panel agreed that the Chairman would approach the Treasury Minister with a polite request to defer the debate on the grounds that it is a significant proposition and that the review into the efficiency and resources of the JCRA was still outstanding.

The Sub-Panel agreed that if the polite request was unsuccessful it  was  to  consider  requesting  a reference  back' for  more information. It further considered preparing a Statement to the Assembly on the 23rd October 2007 and a press release to voice

its concerns at the November debate date, additionally writing to all State Members was considered.

Deputy Martin agreed to present a Statement to the States on

23rd October 2007 if the Chairman's polite request a delay to the debate was refused.

The Sub-Panel agreed that Deputy Baudains would highlight the main issues of concern within the  proposition and  prepare a reference back speech.

GPS

JM GB

The Chairman informed the Sub-Panel that he was unavailable

for 2 weeks from the 20th October 2007 due to off-island States business. Deputy Martin informed the Sub-Panel that she was

unavailable from the 27th October to 3rd November due to off- island States business.

Due to the tight timescales and the Chairman's other Scrutiny commitments the Chairman offered the Chairmanship of the Sub- Panel to the Members.

Proposition: Main Areas of Concern

The  Sub-Panel  considered  the  proposition  P153/2007  and established that the Sub-Panel's recommendations had not been met. It agreed that henceforth the Sub-Panel opposed the Sale.

The Sub-Panel considered the following 3 main issues:

  • JT as an asset
  • Responsibility of the infrastructure
  • JCRA's ability to regulate

The Sub-Panel was concerned that the JCRA was not able to provide the level of control indicated by the Treasury Minister. The  difficulties  faced  by  the  JCRA  in  resolving  the  number portability issue was given as an example.

The Sub-Panel considered that the JCRA would have little power regarding  the  merger  of  two  local  operators,  if  the  merger resulted  from  that  of  the  two  parent  companies  outside  this jurisdiction.

The Sub-Panel discussed concerns regarding the ability of RUDL to protect the islands skill base. It considered that in the event of a  sale  it  is  highly  likely  that  some  skill  areas  would  be outsourced. It  further considered  that the outsourcing of  jobs would  reduce  income  tax  revenues  and  result  in  economic leakage.

It further considered that the sale of JT will increase licence fees.

The Sub-Panel discussed concerns regarding the sale of JT on Strategic grounds and recalled the steering group's opinion that there was insufficient benefit to base the Sale of JT upon a need to grow the Strategic reserve.

The  Sub-Panel  recalled  concerns  regarding  the  subsequent release  of  control  of  the  telecoms  infrastructure  which  is fundamental to the Island's economy.

The  Sub-Panel  considered  the  legal  validity  of  the  proposed

restrictions on the sale and agreed that legal advice was required

to assess the following areas:

  • Contract Law – onward sale, gearing controls
  • Pensions implications GPS/ EKW
  • RUDL and the local skills base
  • UK regulatory practice

The Sub-Panel considered that a legal advisor was required to

look  at  the  Ministers  assurances  in  the  light  of  Jersey  Law,

Employment and Business Law, RUDL.

JCRA Review:

The Sub-Panel recalled that the steering group concluded that the  JCRA  required  a  range  of  additional  powers  to  increase regulatory effectiveness and that a review of the effectiveness of the  way  in  which  JCRA  operates  in  terms  of  regulating telecommunications in Jersey' should be undertaken. The Sub- Panel  considered  that  the  review  was  fundamental  to  the decision making process and that a debate on the sale of JT prior to the completion of the review was unwise.

3. Way Forward

The Sub-Panel needed to investigate the areas of concern that the Minister claims to have addressed and assess the validity of the proposed controls.

The Sub-Panel considered that the Minister has not seriously addressed  the  concerns  raised  by  the  Sub-Panel  and  the reservations of the steering group.

The officer was directed to review the Oxera report in line with

the Sub-Panel's recommendations. EKW The Officer was directed to contact the Sub-Panel's previous

advisor to request further assistance. EKW

The  Sub-Panel  considered  that  the  efficiency  and  resource review of the JCRA should be undertaken prior to the debate to sell JT. It noted that the terms of reference for this review had not been finalised. It further noted that the draft terms of reference appeared  very  wide  and  that  its  efficiency  as  a  telecoms regulator was not included.

The officer was directed to establish when the proposed review

was to be undertaken and when the terms of reference would be EKW finalised.

The  Sub-Panel  agreed  to  prepare  written  questions  to  the Treasury Minister regarding the proposed terms of reference of the JCRA and the timing of the sale debate prior to the review being undertaken.

The Sub-Panel considered the need for written correspondence with the Minister for Economic Development in connection with draft terms of reference and timings of the JCRA review.

The Sub-Panel considered drafting a report stating its concerns in connection with the sale of JT.

It  further  considered  examining  the  Jersey  Electric  Company model which was understood to be a 50% sale.

The  Chairman  agreed  to  request  further  funding  from  the Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel to cover the potential costs of the  reinstatement  of  the  advisor  David  Parker  or  a  suitable replacement if he is unavailable and for legal advice.

EKW Deputy Baudains requested documents relating to JCRA and competition  regulation.  The  officer  was  directed  to  take  the appropriate action.

Signed Date: ..

Chairman

Economic Affairs Scrutiny Sub-Panel (Telecoms Privatisation)