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Chairmen's Committee - Approved Committee Minutes - 20 June 2008

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CHAIRMEN'S COMMITTEE Meeting of Chairmen held on 20th June 2008 Meeting Number 83

Meeting held by electronic mail

 

Present

Deputy S C Ferguson, President

Deputy R G Le Hérissier, Vice-President [for items 5(d) end, 5(e),9 &10] Deputy G P Southern

Deputy D.W. Mezbourian

Deputy J G Reed

Deputy  C.H.  Egré,  Vice-Chairman,  Corporate  Services  [items  1,2,3,4, 5(a)(b)(c)(d)(f),6,7]

Connétable K. Le Brun, Vice-Chairman, Environment [items 5(d)(e), 7, 8

& 9]

Apologies

Deputy R C Duhamel Deputy P J D Ryan Deputy A. Breckon

Absent

 

In attendance

Mrs K. Tremellen-Frost, Scrutiny Manager

 

Ref Back

Agenda matter

Action

 

1. Minutes of previous meetings

The Minutes of the meetings of 23rd and 30th May, having been approved, were signed accordingly.

 

23.05.08 Item 3

2.  Away-day [Internal review into working practices]

The  Committee  recalled  that  it  had  previously  agreed  that  Panels should be consulted as to whether there was a need for an away-day. Very few comments had been received from panels, with two Panels firmly  rejecting  the  concept.  However,  subsequent  to  further consideration it was agreed that there were a number of process and procedural issues which had occurred over the term of office which merited discussion. It was also agreed that any ongoing political issues needed to be considered and consolidated into a political legacy report to  pass  on  to  future  Chairmen's  Committee  and  Panels.  The Committee consequently agreed that a half-day, preferable a morning should be identified. The following matters were raised:-

  1. Devising the forward work programme: challenges and lessons learnt;
  1. Internal review into working practices;
  2. Lessons learnt in giving guarantees to meet deadlines which suit Executive;
  1. Code of Practice/legal advice issues;
  2. Recording  of  Ministerial  decision  and  making  of

Orders  - process and accessibility.

It was agreed that all Panels should consider the above and add any other items for discussion to be passed to the Scrutiny Manager for

 

 

 

subsequent consideration by the Chairmen's Committee. All Members should also note the proposed date of 26th September 2008, time and

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venue to be arranged.

23.05.08 Item 6

 

3.  Comptroller and Auditor General's spending review

The Committee recalled that the Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel had already undertaken to review issues identified in the above review. It was noted that the Economic Affairs Scrutiny Panel would discuss the matter at its meeting of 25th June 2008.

The Committee noted a response from the Comptroller and Auditor General to a Chairmen's Committee letter requesting on what basis he had identified that scrutiny could manage with a reduction of £100,000 from its budget.

The  Committee  noted  the  response  and  also  recalled  that  the Privileges and Procedures Committee had maintained its original view that the scrutiny budget should not be reduced.

 

23.05.08 Item (PAC)

5

4.  Public Accounts Committee - review of Haut de la Garenne funding

The Committee received an update from the Chairman of the above Committee regarding any review of the funding of the first quarter to the Haut de la Garenne investigation. The Committee noted that the Comptroller and Auditor General would no doubt wish to review this after which the Public Accounts Committee would be likely to consider the matter.

 

 

 

5.   Panel reports

 

 

 

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The Committee agreed to write to the Chief Minister to express its concerns.

Jersey Enterprise Board: The Executive had suggested that it should employ scrutiny's professional adviser or the partner of the adviser to further its own work on the matter. The Committee noted that the Executive had been advised that this would be inappropriate. It was also noted that this was not the first occasion that the Executive had attempted to use Scrutiny's advisers to follow up its own work.

Finance Sub-Panel: a further adviser was to be appointed. It was noted that the Sub-Panel Members would remain the same. Deputy Southern requested that there be a consideration for him to join the Sub-Panel.

 

 

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Air Quality: the report had been circulated

Draft Sea Fisheries: The Committee noted the scoping document and Terms of Reference for this review. The Panel agreed to consider the Coastal Zone Management Strategy to identify any information therein

 

 

 

Hearings: hearings have been held with the Internal Auditor regarding financial controls across the States. There will be follow-up hearings with other Accounting Officers in July

 

25.04.08 Item 6

6.  Scrutiny of Human Rights compatibility statements

The Committee recalled that a proposition (P.78/2008 Human Rights Committee  and  Statements  of  Compatibility)  had  been  lodged  "au Greffe" on 29th May 2008 by the Deputy of St. Martin . The Committee considered  draft  comments  and  decided  that  it  would  lodge  an amendment to the proposition.

Having given careful consideration to the structure and content of the amendment, it agreed that this would be redrafted and circulated to the Chairmen's Committee for approval prior to lodging.

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7.  Panel work arrangements Autumn Term 2008

The Committee agreed that some Panels would undoubtedly continue to work on scrutiny matters on the run up to the elections. However, it was agreed that all Members should be particularly careful not to use any ongoing scrutiny work to promote personal election viewpoints. It was also recognised that the scrutiny officers were employed to be impartial and objective and they must not be seen to be supporting any political views whilst undertaking work on behalf of the Panels.

 

25.04.08 Item 5

8.  Annual Business Plan - update

The Committee received an updated schedule for the Annual Business Plan and noted that the Council of Ministers was unlikely to be in a position to give a presentation of the final proposals in advance of the scheduled presentation of 14 July;

It also noted that the Council of Ministers would consider a release of the  draft  report  and  summary  tables  from  26th  June  to  Scrutiny, subject to the normal confidentiality agreement and recognising that there are likely to be further changes prior to lodging;

 

 

An additional briefing meeting to which all States members had been invited would be held on 24 July. This would include a number of improvements to the 2009 process arising out of comments made at and around last year's debate.

 

 

9.  Monitoring  Minister's  undertakings  in  the  States Assembly.

The  Committee  was  apprised  of  a  system  in  other  jurisdictions whereby  there  are  Committees  of  Government  Assurances  which monitor undertakings/promises made by government. The Committee considered that a similar monitoring system should be undertaken for the States Assembly based on undertakings given in answer to oral questions only. It agreed that there was not a need for a separate Committee. The Scrutiny Manager undertook to identify a mechanism for managing this.

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Signed  Date: ..  

President, Chairmen's Committee