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Health and Social Security - Approved Panel Minutes - 27 July 2010

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Health, Social Security & Housing Scrutiny Panel

PUBLIC MEETING

Date: 27th July 2010 Meeting 4

 

Present

Deputy G.P. Southern (Chairman) Deputy D.J. De Sousa

Apologies

Connétable D. Mezbourian

In attendance

Mrs. C. Le Quesne, Scrutiny Officer Mr. S. Le Quesne, Scrutiny Officer

 

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Agenda matter

Action

 

1. Records of previous meetings

The Panel approved the minutes of private and public meetings of the Panel as previously constituted dated the 28th June 2010, 13th and 19th July 2010.

 

 

2.  Vice Chairman

The  Panel  recalled  that  it  had  previously  agreed  to  defer  the appointment. It decided that, as not all members had been available for the meeting the decision would be recorded following an electronic meeting to be held at the earliest opportunity.

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3.  Action updates

The  Panel  noted  the  action  updates  from  previous  meetings  and requested the following actions -

  1. that Deputy De Sousa had attended a meeting with the Head of Health Protection and the Registration and Inspection Manager to discuss the Regulation of Care (Jersey) Law 200-. The Panel was provided with an overview of the key issues relating to the development of the legislation and it was noted that the surrounding issues covered the whole of the Panels remit;
  1. that  a  Hearing  with  the  Minister  for Housing  be scheduled for the 7th September 2010 from 11.30 a.m. - 1.00 p.m.  to  discuss  future  plans  for the  Department  and  the outcomes of the Whitehead consultation, issues relating to the allocation of j' category licenses and adaptations for people with disabilities;
  1. that further follow up be undertaken to obtain information previously  requested  from  the  Social  Security  Department relating to the Social Security Advisory Council and any other issues which remained outstanding; and,
  1. that, the necessary follow up be undertaken to obtain an update from the Minister for Social Security on action taken by his  department  following  the  recommendations  made  in SR5.2009.

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4.  Chairmen's Committee - Citizenship Programme

The Chairman advised that he had not attended the last meeting of the Chairmen's Committee.

The  Panel  noted  the  difficulties  faced  by  members  in  prioritizing commitments  to  attend  the  Citizenship  Programme  due  to  the  late release of the schedule of dates. It commented that it believed that some  of  the  reluctance  pupils  showed  in  participating  might  have resulted from the topic selected and their difficulty in relating to an issue such as Long Term Care of the Elderly. In addition, it was suggested that  more  emphasis  on  the  function  of  Scrutiny  and  its  role  within Government would help to clarify the purpose of the exercise to the pupils. The Panel believed that a Scrutiny member should give such explanations. The Chairman requested that the Chairmen's Committee be advised of the Panel's view.

The Panel was reminded that a Sub-Panel was undertaking a review on Political Education and that it would be advised of the views expressed.

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5. Review of the Use of Discretion

The  Panel  recalled  that  it  had  agreed  to  complete  its  report  and proposition at the earliest opportunity. The Chairman advised that he would liaise with the officer to complete the drafting of the report and circulate the final version for Panel approval electronically.

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6. Scrutiny Matters Edition 7

The Panel received a paper dated 19th July 2010 relating to Chairmen's Committee decisions on the Scrutiny Matters newsletter

The Panel considered what it might include in its report for the 7th edition. It was reminded that its Review of Benefit Levels had featured significantly in the last newsletter and noted that it might also wish to include a report on its Dental Review, the Use of Discretion within the Social  Security  Department  or  its  work  on  the  Corporate  Spending Review in the next edition. The Panel agreed to further consider its newsletter priorities at a subsequent meeting.

 

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7. Home Life Exhibition

The Panel received a paper dated 19th July 2010 prepared for the Chairmen Committee relating to the Home Life Exhibition to be held between the 12th and 14th November 2010.

The Panel noted the dates and agreed to assist in raising the profile of Scrutiny and provide an opportunity to collect evidence for reviews.

 

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8. Comprehensive Spending Review

The Panel considered responses to questions it had submitted to the departments within its remit and decided to submit additional questions with a view to amending the Business Plan with regard to the following subjects -

Social Security

Housing Adaptations

The Panel expressed some concern that 50 per cent of the Housing Adaptations  budget  was  proposed  as  part  of  the  2  per  cent

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Comprehensive Spending Review cuts for 2011. It requested that the relevant  departments  and  community  service  providers  be  asked supplementary questions about the referral process, the implications of any reduction in assistance for eligible individuals and access to the funds. The Panel agreed that it would prepare an amendment to the States Business Plan seeking the removal of Housing Adaptations from the 2 per cent cuts.

GST Bonus

The Panel recalled that the introduction of the GST bonus had been agreed by the States to mitigate some of the effects on relatively low- income families following the inclusion of GST on food. The Panel was concerned  that  the  removal  of  the  bonus  was  particularly  untimely especially as no indication had been given by the Minister for Treasury and Resources if or to what extent GST might be raised. The Chairman agreed to give the matter further consideration and to advise the Panel of his thinking at the earliest opportunity.

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Diabetes

The  Panel  noted  that  the  proposed  increased  user  pays  approach relating to diabetic care and the related medical supplies required by patients.  Whilst  the  potential  savings  may  comply  with  user  pays policies,  the  cost  implications  to  the  individual  and  the  possible subsequent  impact  for  patients  who  may  not  undertake  adequate monitoring  were  issues  of  concern.  The  officers  were  requested  to clarify the costs and services included in the proposal and to prepare a draft report and proposition as an amendment to the States Business Plan to ensure that funding was not remove from diabetic care. Deputy De Sousa agreed to lead on this amendment.

Pharmacy - out of hours cover

The Panel noted the response to its questions relating to the proposed savings to be achieved through cutting out of hours pharmacy cover at the general hospital. The Panel was extremely concerned that the cut in cover  was  being  considered  given  that  a  risk  to  patients  was acknowledged. Whilst the Panel accepted that savings were required it appeared that as 45 per cent of out of hours calls to the pharmacy occur on a Sunday the reduction could place additional pressure on already busy professionals.

The Panel requested further information on -

  • how medical staff would access information about medication in the absence of access to a pharmacist;
  • who would be responsible for ordering the additional drugs;
  • how would safety on the ward be increased to ensure security due to carrying increased quantities of drugs on wards; and,
  • whether cost analysis had been undertaken on the costs of not discharging  patients  if  the  necessary  medication  were  not available on the ward.

The Panel agreed that it would prepare an amendment to the States Business  Plan  seeking  the  removal  of  reducing  the  out  of  hours pharmacy cover from the 2 per cent cuts.

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Non-essential surgery

The Panel noted that a decision was proposed to assist in meeting an overall 2 per cent saving required from the department by the CSR, without providing any information as to the exact surgical procedures to be discontinued.

It requested a detailed list as to the type of surgery, which would fall within the category of non essential'. The Panel agreed that it would prepare  an  amendment  to  the  States  Business  Plan  seeking  the removal of non-essential surgery from the 2 per cent cuts.

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9. Comprehensive Spending Review (CSR)

The Panel recalled that following its last meeting its draft proposition to amend  P.99/2010  relating  to  the  removal  of  posts  in  child  and adolescent mental health services and the alcohol and drug service as part of the 2011 two per cent savings required by the CSR had been lodged au Greffe'.

The Panel decided that it would re-issue the proposition in order that new information supplied by the Alcohol and Drug Service could be included in the attached report.

The officer was requested to take the necessary action.

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10. Dental Review

The Panel received an update on the Dental Review from Deputy D. De Sousa in her capacity as lead member. It was advised that the hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services had been productive and that the necessary arrangements for the forthcoming hearing with the Minister for Social Security were in place.

The Panel was advised that the format for the report was becoming clearer and that a number of themes had become apparent from both the number of written submissions and the evidence received at the aforementioned hearing.

The lead member would work closely with the officer to produce a report  for  the  Panel's  consideration  and  presentation  to  the  States during August. Deputy De Sousa would liaise with the media on the release of the report as appropriate.

 

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11. Income Support: Sub-Panel Review of Benefit Levels

The Panel received an update on Review of Benefit Levels from the Chairman. It was advised that the Review was currently awaiting an updated report from its advisor Dr. M. Evans. Subsequent to the receipt of  that  report  and  the  additional  information  requested  from  Social Security  the  Chairman  would  develop  the  heads  of report  with  the officer.

The Chairman advised that he anticipated that some drafting could take place in the next two weeks. He advised that meetings for stakeholders with the advisors present were still planned and that details would be finalized at the next Sub-Panel meeting.

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On a related matter, the Chairman advised that he had been advised that correspondence had been sent from Social Security to recipients of the transitional protection. Some recipients were facing significant cuts in  payments,  which  would  be  difficult  for  them  to  accommodate, particularly those in receipt of pensions.

The Panel decided to ask the following questions -

  • how many letters had been sent to recipients?
  • how many individuals had been advised that their transitional protection was to be reduced?
  • what was the scale of reduction?
  • which income levels were being affected?
  • when would recipients be advised of 2011 cuts in transitional protection payments?
  • what level of reduction was planned for 2011? and,
  • did the July 2010 letters advising of the cuts include the annual October  rise  in  benefits  within  the  reduction  of  transitional protection payments?

The officer was directed to take the necessary action.

 

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12. Topic Proposals from the Public

The Panel considered a topic proposal from a member of the public relating to housing adaptations for people with disabilities.

The Panel decided that it would consider the subject as part of its work programme at its first September meeting. The Panel requested that the member be advised of its decision and that they be advised of its intention to pursue the removal of the proposed 50 per cent cut to the Housing Adaptations budget as part of the 2 per cent CSR cuts in the form of an amendment to the States Annual Business

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13. Future meetings

It was agreed that the next Panel meeting would be the 7th September 2010 at 9.30 a.m. in Le Capelain Room.