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Public Accounts Committee - Approved Committee Minutes - 14 May 2012

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Public Accounts Committee

Record of Meeting

Date:   14th May 2012 Meeting No:  5

 

Present

Deputy T. Vallois, Chairman Senator S. C. Ferguson, Deputy R. Rondel

Mr A. Fearn

Mr S. Haigh

Apologies

Mr C. Evans

Mr. C. Swinson O.B.E. – Comptroller and Auditor General (C&AG)

Absent

Deputy S. Pitman

In attendance

Mr M. Robbins, Scrutiny Officer

 

Ref Back

Agenda matter

Action

 

1. Records of Meetings

The Committee approved the record of its meetings of 19th March 2012 and 16th April 2012.

MR

 

2. Conflict of Interest

No  conflict  of  interest  was  declared  relating  to  any  matter  on  the agenda.

 

Item  3 16.04.12

512/1(40)

3. Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2005

The Committee noted that no response had been received from the Treasurer of the States to the letter sent on 18th April 2012. It was

agreed that the Committee could not proceed without the requested information and that the failure of the Treasury to supply the required information was unacceptable. The information requested should have been at hand and the Committee could see no reason for it being withheld.

In addition to the requested information, it was now essential that the Committee  also  obtained  the  date  that  the  amendments  would  be lodged au Greffe'. The information was to be obtained.

MR

 

4. Suspension of States Employees.

The Chairman had received an email from a member of the public who raised concerns about the cost to the Island of suspensions of States employees. The Chairman had met with the Human Resources Director for  a  briefing  and  it  was  clear  that  although  the  area  was  being improved by the current Human Resources Department, more needed to be done. This could not be achieved unless the Human Resources Department received significant upgrading to make it fit for purpose' in the States today. Documentation supplied to the Chairman was to be circulated to the Committee after which consideration could be given as to the appropriate way forward.

MR

Item  5 16.04.12

512/1(1)

5. Recruitment of non-elected members

The  Committee  noted  that  the  Chairman  of  the  Appointments Commission had been contacted and was appointing a Commissioner to  assist  the  Committee  with  the  recruitment  process.  The advertisement  for  the  positions  was  to  be  published  in  the  Jersey Evening  Post  on  Wednesday  17th  May  2012.  The  closing  date  for applications was the 31st May 2012, with interviews being held on 18th June 2012.  

MR

Item  6 16.04.12

512/14

6. Review into the Bus Contract.

The  response  from  Transport  and  Technical  Services  had  been received and circulated to the Committee. It revealed that most of the recommendations within the Comptroller and Auditor General's report Management  of  the  Bus  Contracts'  had  been  accepted  and  were subject of action. The report also contained recommendations relating to the Central Procurement Department. A request for information about the response to those recommendations had been sent to the Central Procurement Team. The reply had been received immediately prior to the Committee meeting and was circulated to members.

It was agreed that the recommendations had been dealt with by the departments and that the Committee was in a position to complete the review. It was further agreed that the Chairman was to have discretion on the format of the final document but that consideration was to be given to submitting a report in the form of Comments to the States'.

It was noted that there were areas of the review which could have been subject to further investigation but that were outside the remit of the Committee.  The  Chairman  was  to  liaise  with  the  Chairman  of  the Environment Scrutiny Panel to advise him of these areas of the review which fell into the remit of his Panel.

The  draft  document  was  to  be  circulated  to  the  Committee  for consideration and approval.

TV/MR

TV/MR

MR

Item  7 16.04.12

512/15

7. Compromise Agreements: Review of the C&AG Reports

Consideration was given to the value of the hearings held on 16th April and 8th May 2012. The Committee considered that the questioning had provided  the  evidence  needed  to  draft  the  report  and  thanked  the Comptroller  and  Auditor  General  in  his  absence  for  the  advice  he supplied.  It  was  also  noted  that the  subject  had  caused  significant interest in the media.

Documents supplied by the Human Resources Director suggested that in his opinion, had the Island had modern Human Resources systems and processes, along with the resources over the last few years, many of the problems which have occurred in connection with compromise agreements should not have happened. Much of the information he supplied supported the evidence previously obtained and was to be included  in  the  report.  However,  it  was  recognised  that  Human Resources  were  currently  bidding  for  significant  increases  in establishment  in  order  to  modernise  the  department  and  care  was required to ensure the impartiality of the submission.

It was noted that the private documentation, promised to the Committee by the Minister for Treasury and Resources at the hearing on 16th April

 

 

2012, had not been supplied. It had been chased by the Officer and an email  from  the  Minister  on  8th  May  2012  had  promised  the

documentation for later that day but it had not been received.

The  Committee  received  documents  relating  to  principles  of remuneration, executive contracts and severance in the private sector, which  was  considered  to  be  of  possible  assistance  in  supporting elements  of  the  report.  These  documents  were  to  be  electronically circulated to the Committee.

The Chairman was to work with the officer on producing a draft report for consideration of the Committee.

TV / MR

 

8. Future Meetings

The Committee agreed that the next meeting was to be at 12.30 pm on Monday 11th June 2012 in the Blampied Room of the States Buildings.

MR