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Approved Panel Minutes - Future Hospital Review Panel - 2018

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Future Hospital Review Panel

Records of Meetings

Year: 2018

The following records of meetings have been approved by the Review Panel. Signed

Deputy Kevin Pamplin

Chairman

Future Hospital Review Panel

Date: 3rd September 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat

Apologies

 

Absent

Connétable John Le Maistre

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Chairman

The Panel agreed that Deputy Kevin Pamplin would act as Chairman of the Panel.

 

2. Declaration of interests

The Panel noted the requirements set out in the Proceedings Code of Practice with regard to declaration of interests.

No interests were declared.

 

3. Legacy Report

The Panel noted the Legacy Report. The Panel highlighted the cost of the future hospital project and the potential use of contingencies as one of the key legacy issues that the Panel may choose to focus on.

 

4. Scoping document and terms of reference

The Panel approved the scoping document and the terms of reference.

It asked the Scrutiny Officer to set up meetings with appropriate stakeholders.

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5. Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme and agreed that it would meet as and when required.

 

Meeting held by electronic mail

Date: 6th September 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Public hearing

The Panel agreed that it would invite the Chief Minister as well as the Assistant Chief Minister and Chair of the Hospital Policy Development Board to a public hearing.

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Date: 28th September 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 3rd and 6th September 2018.

 

2. Public hearing with the Chief Minister

The Panel discussed a draft question plan for its forthcoming hearing with the Chief Minister and Chair of the Hospital Policy Development Board (date to be confirmed). The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to amend the question plan for consideration at its next meeting.

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3. Future Hospital Team

The Panel noted a letter it had received from John Rogers, Director General of the Department for Growth Housing and Environment and Chair of the Future Hospital Project Board. The letter contained an Assurance Report on the Future Hospital Project produced by Concerto. The letter and report were published on the States Assembly website. The letter also contained an offer from the Future Hospital Team to brief the Panel on the status of the current project and next steps. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to arrange a briefing.

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4. Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme.

 

Date: 12th October 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Richard Bell, Treasurer of the States [Item 2]

Ray Foster, Director of Estates [Item 2]

Bernard Place, Project Director, Future Hospital Jersey [Item 2]

John Rogers, Director General for Growth, Housing and Island Environment [Item 2]

Allison Rogers, Director of Financial Planning and Performance [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 28th September 2018.

 

2.  Future Hospital Team

The Panel met with Officers from the Future Hospital Team to discuss the status of the current future hospital project and next steps. The Officials explained the history of the project, the current status of the project and highlighted areas of uncertainty about  the  future  of  the  project.  The  topics  discussed  included  site  selection, construction, finance, and health policy.

 

3.  Public hearing with the Chief Minister

The Panel discussed and agreed the question plan for its public hearing on Friday 19th October with the Chief Minister and the Assistant Chief Minister and Chair of the Hospital Policy Development Board.

 

4.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme.

The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to arrange a meeting with relevant clinicians to discuss the future hospital.

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Date: 19th October 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Senator John Le Fondré, Chief Minister [Item 2]

Connétable Christopher Taylor , Assistant Chief Minister [Item 2]

Rob  Sainsbury,  Group  Managing  Director,  Department  of  Health  and Community Services [Item 2]

Paul Bradbury, Director, Corporate Policy [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 12th October 2018.

 

2.  Public hearing with the Chief Minister

The Panel held a hearing in public with the Chief Minister and the Assistant Chief Minister and Chair of the Hospital Policy Development Board and their Officers. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

Following the hearing the Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to draft a letter to the Chief Minister seeking to clarify a document handed to the Panel by the Chief Minister comparing timelines for construction of the future hospital if a decision was made to proceed with the current site or if another site was found.

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3.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme.

 

Date: 27th November 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

John McInerney, Acting Group Medical Director [Item 2] Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 19th October 2018.

 

2.  Acting Group Medical Director

The Panel met with Acting Group Medical Director, John McInerney, to discuss issues around the future hospital.

Issues discussed during the meeting included changes in the demand for hospital services over the last 5 years and the risks associated with increasing demand, the policies determining the direction of health provision in Jersey, the role of hospitals in facilitating good clinician processes, the pros and cons of building on the current site or on an alternative sites, and some of the work that would be required on the current site regardless of a potential future decision to change sites. This included, for example, the need to build a new electricity substation.

A more detailed private record of the meeting was taken in accordance with Article 26 of the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended).

 

3.  Hospital Policy Development Board

The Panel noted the report, Review of evidence to build a new hospital on the existing site, published by the Hospital Policy Development Board on 15 November 2018.

The Panel agreed to write to the Chair of the Board seeking more information about some of the evidence referred to in the report and media reports that Board members travelled to France in relation to its work.

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4.  Public hearing with the Chief Minister

The Panel noted the letter from the Chief Minister dated 29th October 2018. The Panel agreed to publish the letter on its website.

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5.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme.

 

Date: 17th December 2018

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Chairman Deputy Mary Le Hegarat Connétable John Le Maistre

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Bruce Willing [Item 2] Grahame Bisson [Item 2] Jean Lelliott [Item 2] Andy Howell [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 27th November 2018.

 

2.  Group of private individuals  

In response to a request, the Panel met with a group of private individuals to discuss issues around the future hospital.

The group set out some of the issues with the current proposal for the future hospital. It suggested that the site selection issue should be revisited. The group set out its initial thoughts on 4 alternative sites: the Waterfront, Overdale, Warwick Farm and St Saviour's Hospital.

The group suggested that the Review Panel should undertake a visit to Plérin, in France, to meet with representatives from AIA Life Designers, an architectural firm, who designed and built a hospital in the area. The visit would cost £300 for a maximum of 5 people for one day. The group offered to organise the trip. The Panel decided to decline the offer to visit Plérin.

The group suggested that the Review Panel should undertake a feasibility study of alternative hospital sites. This would focus on 4 sites: the Waterfront, Overdale, Warwick Farm and St Saviours Hospital. The group said that AIA Life Designers, which had already visited Jersey to look at the sites, could undertake this feasibility study at a cost of £75,000. It would take 2 months from the date of being commissioned. The Panel considered this proposal carefully. It decided to decline the proposal because it constituted policy development. This was a matter for the Government rather than for Scrutiny.

The Panel decided to write to the Future Hospital Team to seek answers to some of the questions posed by the group.

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3.  Electricity substation

The Panel noted the information it had received from the Future Hospital Team on the new electricity substation.

 

4.  Future Hospital Report

The Panel noted a heads of report in relation to a potential forthcoming debate in the State Assembly on the future hospital.

 

5.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme.