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Approved Panel Minutes - Health and Social Security - 2018

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Health and Social Security Panel

Records of Meetings

Year: 2018

The following records of meetings have been approved by the Panel. Signed

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat

Chairman

Health and Social Security Panel

Date: 18th June 2018

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Declaration of interests

The Panel noted the requirements set out in the Proceedings Code of Practice with regard to declaration of interests.

No interests were declared.

 

2. Procedural and administrative matters

The Panel considered its working practices and:

Agreed that it would meet every two weeks on Thursday afternoons between 13.30 and 15.30.

Agreed that Deputy Kevin Pamplin would act as Vice-Chairman to the Panel. Agreed that it will examine witnesses in public, except where it otherwise orders.

Noted that the Scrutiny Officer will advise witnesses of the broad subject areas which are likely to be covered in public hearings.

Noted that, in principle, all written evidence received by the Panel will be published on the States Assembly website. It agreed that submissions will be treated in accordance with data protection legislation. Confidential submissions may be considered on a case-by-case basis. Anonymous submissions will not be considered.

Agreed that it shall not consider individual cases.

Agreed that the following matters would be delegated to the Chairman's discretion:

  • Engaging  in  correspondence  on  Panel  matters  which  is  not  sufficiently significant to require approval by the Panel or is of a routine nature;
  • Amending the timing of Panel meetings, where necessary; and
  • Authorising the issue of press notices about forthcoming evidence sessions, new inquiries and reports.

 

 

3. Accessing Scrutiny information

The Panel noted the arrangements for sharing and storing Panel information via SharePoint.

 

4. Member training

The Panel noted the proposals for Member training.

The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to deliver training on scrutiny reviews at its next meeting.

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5. Panel remit and departmental responsibilities

The Panel noted the Panel's remit and relevant departmental responsibilities.

 

6. Future programme

The Panel discussed its future programme and asked the Scrutiny Officer to prepare a scoping document in time for the next meeting.

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Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Sue Duhamel, Director of Policy, Social Security Department

Kim Baker, Business Manager, Social Security Department

Mark MacGregor, Policy Principal, Social Security Department Samantha Sugden, Policy Principal, Social Security Department

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Propositions 73 and 77

The Panel met with Officers from the Department for Social Security to discuss Proposition 73 on the Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 18) (Jersey) Regulations

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The Officers explained the background to the income support system and social security  and  summarised  the  effect  of  the  propositions  if  agreed  by  the  States Assembly on 10 July.

Proposition 73 would increase income support components.

Proposition 77 would strengthen the redetermination and appeals process associated with Long-Term Incapacity Allowance assessments. It would also make several other minor amendments to the law.

The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to follow-up with the Officers after the meeting seeking further information in relation to the Social Security Law amendments.

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 18th June 2018.

 

2.  Private briefings

The Scrutiny Officer updated the Panel on arrangements for private briefings with departmental officials. The briefings were likely to take place in early September. Proposals were being developed by relevant departments. The Panel would agree the final arrangements at a subsequent meeting.

 

3.  Long-term Care Scheme

The Panel noted the Ministerial Response to the Panel's Long-Term Care Report.

The Panel wanted to know whether the review into care assessments' would still be completed by the end of 2018, as the review would now include two new elements as a result of the Panel's report. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to follow-up with the department.

The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to produce a document setting out whether the Minister had accepted, partially accepted or rejected the Panel's recommendations. In cases where the Minister had committed to do something, the Panel asked this to be noted so that the Panel could follow-up in due course.

The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to produce a similar document described above for all the Panel's reports over the past year. This would be completed over the summer.

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4.  Propositions

The Panel considered forthcoming States business. It noted that it met with Officers from the Department for Social Security on 3rd July to discuss Proposition 73 on the Draft Income Support (Amendment No. 18) (Jersey) Regulations 201- and Proposition

 

77 on the Draft Social Security (Amendment No. 23) (Jersey) Law 201-.

 

 

 

5.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme. The Panel agreed a scoping document and terms of reference on assessing mental health services. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to make arrangements to launch the review at the end of July.

Deputy Pamplin reported back on his attendance at the Chairmen's Committee on 28th June (deputising for Deputy Le Hegarat). The Committee agreed to re-establish the Future Hospital Review Panel. It tasked Deputy Pamplin with finding a Chairman for the Panel. The Panel agreed that Deputy Pamplin should chair the Panel. It agreed that Deputy Le Hegarat should be a member of the Panel. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to seek more members of the Panel in time for the next Chairmen's Committee meeting.

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6.  Member training

The Scrutiny Officer delivered training on the scrutiny review process.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Ruth Johnson , Director, Social Policy, Department for Strategic Policy, Performance and Population

Christine  Blackwood,  Head  of  Professional  and  Care  Regulation, Community and Constitutional Affairs

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Regulation of Care Regulations

The Panel met with Officers from the Department for Strategic Policy, Performance and Population, and the Department for Community and Constitutional Affairs, to discuss forthcoming Regulation of Care Regulations.

The Officers explained that the Regulation of Care (Jersey) Law was approved in 2014.  Some  articles  of  the  Law  were  already  inforce.  For  example,  the  Care Commission had already been established. The majority of articles were not in force. These would be brought into force through two new regulations.

The  new  regulations  would  define  regulated  activities  and  the  standards  and requirements of providers. Providers included States of Jersey run services as well as  private  and  charitable  organisations.  The  specific  areas  covered  included domiciliary (or home) care, care homes and adult day care centres. This could be expanded in the future.

A new fee structure would be implemented to help fund the new regulatory system. The fee structure was currently out for consultation.

The Officers explained that the regulations would go out for consultation in the summer 2018. The regulations would be lodged in the States in autumn 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meetings on 3rd and 5th July 2018.

 

2.  Private briefings

The Scrutiny Officer updated the Panel on arrangements for private briefings with departmental officials.

 

3.  Organ Donation

The Panel noted the Ministerial Response to the Panel's Organ Donation Report.

The Panel wanted to know what progress the department had made towards launching its public awareness campaign communicating the change from an opt-in to an opt- out approach to organ donation. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to follow-up with the department.

The Panel also wanted to know what progress the Comité des Connétable had made towards transferring the data it has on applicants' organ donation preferences to the NHS Blood and Transplant service. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to follow-up with the Comité.

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4.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme. The Panel discussed arrangements for the launch of its review into mental health services at the end of July.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

Deputy Carina Alves

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meetings on 12th and 18th July 2018.

 

2.  Briefing guidelines

The  Panel  noted  the  briefing  guidelines  that  were  agreed  by  the  Chairman's Committee. It agreed to send them to relevant departments. It agreed that the Panel could deviate from these guidelines when appropriate to do so.

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3.  Visit to UK Parliament

The Panel discussed plans to visit Parliament in the UK. It agreed to combine the trip with the Education and Home Affairs Panel. The Officer would identify potential dates in 2019 and report back to the Panel.

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4.  Correspondence from members of the public

The Panel discussed two pieces of correspondence it had received from members of the public in relation to hospital waiting times and income support. The Panel agreed to keep the correspondence on file for future reference but noted that it did not investigate individual matters. The Panel asked the Officer to respond on its behalf and suggest that the people concerned write to the relevant department and their elected representative.

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5.  Regulation of Care

The Panel noted the consultation on regulation of care regulations that was being undertaken by the States of Jersey. The Panel asked the Officer to arrange a briefing with Officials from the Chief Minister's Department once the consultation had closed but before the regulations were debated in the States Assembly (expected in autumn 2018). The Panel asked the Officer to seek views on the regulations from relevant care providers.

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6.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

 

 

The Panel noted that the review would be launched on Tuesday 31st July. The Panel asked the Officer to arrange private briefings with relevant Officials and other parties on this issue. It asked the Officer to arrange relevant visits to support its work on this issue.  The  Panel  discussed  a  draft  questionnaire  that  it  intended  to  launch  in September. The Panel agreed that the Officer could share draft copies in confidence with experts on mental health to seek their feedback before the launch.

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7.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place at 1.30pm on 5th September 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Trevor Pointon (remotely)

Apologies

Deputy Carina Alves

Absent

 

In attendance

James Le Feuvre, Executive Director, Mind Jersey Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel met with James Le Feuvre, Executive Director of Mind Jersey to discuss mental health services in Jersey.

Topics discussed at the meeting included the work of Mind Jersey, changes in demand for mental health services in Jersey, the Government's mental health strategy, and mental health services provided by the States of Jersey.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman

Apologies

Deputy Carina Alves Deputy Trevor Pointon

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 30th July 2018.

 

2.  Regulation of Care Regulations

The Panel noted the comments it had received to date on the forthcoming regulations, which were currently out for consultation. It asked the Scrutiny Officer to encourage other care providers to submit comments to the Panel.

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3.  Social Security Annual Report

The Panel noted the report. It discussed the Long-term Care Scheme and asked the Scrutiny Officer to prepare questions on this issue to put to the Minister for Social Security at its next quarterly hearing in October 2018.

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4.  Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME)

The Panel noted the email it had received from a member of the public. It asked the Scrutiny Officer to respond on its behalf stating that the Panel would keep the correspondence on file and consider looking into this, along with other issues, in the future.

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5.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel discussed and approved the questionnaire. It asked the Scrutiny Officer to arrange for the questionnaire to be translated into Polish and Portuguese. It also asked the Officer to ensure that the online version was accessible and to produce hardcopy versions for people who do not have access to a computer.

The Panel noted the written evidence it had received to date and agreed to publish them online (except for those submissions which were confidential).

The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to encourage other organisations to submit written evidence to the Panel's review before the written evidence deadline on Friday 28th September.

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6.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place at 1.30pm on 20th September 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Ruth Johnson , Director, Social Policy, Department for Strategic Policy, Performance and Population [Item 2]

Christine  Blackwood,  Head  of  Professional  and  Care  Regulation, Community and Constitutional Affairs [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 3rd and 5th September 2018.

 

2.  Regulation of Care Regulations

The Panel met with Officers from the Department for Strategic Policy, Performance and Population, and the Department for Community and Constitutional Affairs, to discuss the forthcoming Regulation of Care Regulations. This followed a previous meeting held between the Panel and the Officers on 12th July 2018.

The  Officers  updated  the  Panel  on  the  responses  it  had  received  following  its consultation on the proposed fees and regulations.

On the regulations, the Officers reported that they had received no responses. The Officers speculated that this was probably because they had already consulted on a similar draft of the regulations in 2017.

On the fees, the Officers reported that 10 organisations attended a consultation meeting held in July and that they had received one written response. Three main issues were highlighted: whether charitable organisations should be charged fees; when the new fees should be introduced and; the basis of calculating day care fees.

The Officers explained that charitable organisations would not be exempt from the fees; the introduction of new fees would be staggered and that; the basis of calculating day care fees had been restructured.

The Panel raised a number of additional issues which had been highlighted by organisations that had written directly to the Panel. These focused on the impact of

 

 

fees and regulations on different types of care providers as well as how the future inspection regime would work in practice.

The Officers said that the regulations would be lodged at the beginning of October and, subject to States approval, would come into force in January. The fees would be determined by Order.

 

3.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel noted the final formatted version of the questionnaire and agreed the date it would be launched.

It asked the Scrutiny  Officer to draw up a detailed public hearing schedule for consideration at its next meeting.

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4.  Quarterly hearing

The Panel discussed a draft question plan for its quarterly hearing on Thursday 18th October with the Minister for Social Security. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to amend the question plan for consideration at its next meeting.

 

5.  Governance Arrangements for Health and Social Security

The Panel noted the C&AG report, Governance Arrangements for Health and Social

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Care. It agreed to invite the C&AG to brief the Panel on the report and asked the Scrutiny Officer to arrange a meeting.

6.  Future Programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place at 1.30pm on 4th October 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

Deputy Carina Alves

Absent

 

In attendance

Julian Blazeby – Director General, Community and Constitutional Affairs Chris Dunne – Operational Director, Community Care and Health

Derek Law – Interim Director of Community and Adult Services

Jo Poynter – Director, Health and Social Services

Cheryl Power – Director of Specialist Services, Health and Community Services

Rob  Sainsbury   Group  Managing  Director,  Health  and  Community Services

Karen Wilson – Interim Director, Governance, Quality and Nursing and Mental Health Lead

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel met with Officers from the Department for Health and Community Services and  the  Department  for  Community  and  Constitutional  Affairs  to  discuss  the Government's response to the Panel's terms of reference and Jersey's mental health services in general.

The  topics  discussed  at  the  meeting  included  trends  in  mental  health;  what developments there had been since the Mental Health Strategy was launched in 2015; some specific projects to further develop and improve mental health services in Jersey; issues with staff recruitment and retention; the mental health estate; engaging with partner organisations and; examples of best practise from other jurisdictions.

The Officers committed to sending the Government's written response to the Panel's terms of reference by Friday 28th September.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The  Panel  noted  and  agreed  the  minutes  from  the  meeting  on  20th  and  24th September. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to draft a private minute of the meeting on 24th September, in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 26.

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2.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel agreed to publish the written evidence it had received in relation to its review. The Panel agreed not to publish the personal testimony it had received.

The Panel agreed that it would offer all the people who submitted personal testimony the opportunity to meet the Panel to discuss their experience in more detail. The Panel agreed that these meetings would take place in November.

The Panel agreed a list of organisations that it wanted to invite to public hearings. The Panel agreed that these meetings would take place in December.

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3.  Quarterly hearing

The Panel agreed the question plan for its quarterly hearing with the Minister for Social Security on Thursday 18th October.

 

4.  Governance Arrangements for Health and Social Care

The Panel noted its forthcoming meeting with the Comptroller and Auditor General (C&AG) to discuss her report into Health Governance.

 

5.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place at 1.30pm on 18th October 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Karen   Wilson ,  Interim  Director  -  Governance  Quality  and  Nursing, Department for Health and Community Services

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel visited Orchard House as part of its review into mental health services. Orchard House is a 17 bed acute admissions unit for adults (17-65 years) experiencing acute mental illness or disorder. The unit also provides in-patient support for people experiencing acute episodes of mental ill health who are in La Moye prison.

Topics discussed during the visit included the capacity of Orchard House and how this compared to similar facilities in the UK, the types of people who use the facility and how this has changed over time, and the challenges staff and service users were facing.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Dr Tara Woodward, Clinical Psychologist, Jersey Talking Therapies Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel visited Jersey Talking Therapies (JTT) as part of its review into mental health services. JTT offers Islanders a service staffed with professionally trained therapists who will support them through a range of psychological therapies.

The topics discussed during the visit included the types of services provided by JTT, the types of people who used JTT, and the challenges the staff were facing.

 

Date: 18th October 2018

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Deputy Judy Martin, Minister for Social Security [Item 2]

Deputy Geoff Southern , Assistant Minister for Social Security [Item 2] Deputy Jeremy Maçon, Assistant Minister for Social Security [Item 2] Ian Burns, Director General, Customer and Local Services [Item 2] Sue Duhamel, Policy Director [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel agreed to defer the approval of the minutes to the next meeting.

 

2.  Quarterly hearing with the Minister for Social Security

The Panel held a quarterly hearing in public with the Minister, her Assistant Ministers and her Officers. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

Following the hearing the Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to draft a letter to the Minister seeking to clarify the Minister's priorities as well as her and her Assistant Ministers' official responsibilities.

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3.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel noted the arrangements to hear from people with personal testimony in November. The Panel also noted the arrangements to hold public hearings with expert witnesses in December.

 

4.  Quarterly hearing

The Panel agreed to defer to the next meeting its consideration of the draft question plan for the quarterly hearing on Thursday 15th November with the Minister for Health and Social Services.

 

5.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place on 8th November 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman

Deputy Trevor Pointon Deputy Carina Alves

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Karen McConnell, Comptroller and Auditor General Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Governance Arrangements for Health and Social Care

The Panel met with Karen McConnell, Comptroller and Auditor General, to discuss her report, Governance Arrangements for Health and Social Care which was published on 13 September 2018. The C&AG set out what the report covered and the scope of her review, her main findings and next steps.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Mark Hafey, Acting Chief Inspector Alison Fossey, Acting Superintendent

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel visited the States of Jersey Police headquarters as part of its review into mental health services. The topics discussed at the meeting included changes to the police force, statistics about the number of mental health cases the police had dealt with  over  the  last  year,  the  relationship  between  the  police  service  and  other emergency services in relation to mental health, and the challenges faced by the police in dealing with people with mental health issues.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Nick Watkins, Deputy Governor

Andy Buttimer, Head of Healthcare

Ruth Emsley, Principal Forensic Psychologist

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of mental health services

The Panel visited the States of Jersey Prison as part of its review into mental health services. The topics discussed at the meeting included how the Prison looks after prisoners with mental health issues, some of the gaps in the services it is able to provide, and issues with recruitment and retention of staff.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

Theo Stone, Assistant Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meeting on 24th September 2018 and 4th, 17th, 18th, 22nd and 24th October 2018.

 

2.  Quarterly hearing

The Panel agreed the question plan for its quarterly hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services on Thursday 15th November.

The Panel noted the letter it had received from the Minister for Social Security, in response to its letter on 25th October following her appearance before the Panel at a quarterly hearing on Thursday 18th October. The Panel agreed to publish the letter and asked the Scrutiny Officer to draft a follow-up letter asking for more details about the work the Minister's Assistant Ministers had undertaken since being in Office.

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3.  Regulation of Care

The Panel noted the Care Regulations that were lodged au Greffe on 23rd October. The Panel noted that the States had agreed to move the debate on the Regulations from 4th December to 20th November. The Panel agreed to submit Comments on the Regulations in time for the debate. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to prepare Comments  on  the  Regulations  in  time  for  its  next  meeting  on  Thursday  15th November.

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4.  Governance Arrangements for Health and Social Care

The Panel noted the response from the Department for Health and Community Services to the C&AG's report, Governance Arrangements for Health and Social Care.

The Panel noted that the Department would have to consult with the Panel on some of the proposed changes.

 

 

5.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel noted the additional evidence it had received and agreed to publish it on its website. The Panel noted the arrangements for its forthcoming public and private hearings. It agreed to invite clinical staff to a public hearing. It asked the Scrutiny Officer to set up a public hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Security in January 2018. It asked the Scrutiny Officer to set up a visit to CAMHS.

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6.  Health staff recruitment and retention

The Panel noted the correspondence it had received from members of the public in relation to nurse and midwife pay. It agreed that it would ask the Minister for Health and Social Services about staff morale, recruitment and retention at its next quarterly hearing on Thursday 15th November.

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7.  Minimum Wage

The Panel noted the Draft Minimum Wage Regulations that were lodged au Greffe on 26th October and that were due to be debated on 4th December. The Panel asked the Scrutiny Officer to explore whether the Regulations could be delayed to allow more time for Scrutiny.

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8.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place at 1.30pm on 15th November 2018.

The Panel agreed that its 2019 Panel meetings would start on Thursday 10th January at 1.30pm and would be held every two weeks thereafter.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Deputy Richard Renouf – Minister for Health and Social Services [Item 2] Deputy Hugh Raymond – Assistant Minister for Health and Social Services [Item 2]

Rob  Sainsbury   Group  Managing  Director,  Health  and  Community Services [Item 2]

Derek Law – Interim Director for Community Services and Adult services [Item 2]

Darren Skinner – Interim HR Director, Health and Social Services [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meetings on 7th and 9th November 2018.

 

2.  Quarterly hearing with the Minister for Health and Social Services

The Panel held a quarterly hearing in public with the Minister, his Assistant Minister and his Officers. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

 

3.  Regulation of Care

The Panel agreed a draft comments paper in relation to the Care Regulations which were due to be debated on 20th November. It asked the Scrutiny Officer to submit the comments in time for the debate.

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4.  Quarterly hearing

The Panel noted the letter it had received from the Minister from Social Security dated 1st November following the quarterly hearing on 18th October. It agreed to write to the Minister will some additional questions.

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5.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel noted the arrangements for its forthcoming public and private hearings.

 

 

6.  Minimum Wage

The Panel noted the response from the Department for Strategic Policy, Performance and Population in response to its request to delay the debate on the Draft Minimum Wage  Regulations.  The  Panel  asked  the  Scrutiny  Officer  to  request  that  the Department brief the Panel on the Regulations before the debate.

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7.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place on 13th December 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Sue Fernandes, Senior Youth Worker, Youth Enquiry Service 6 young people aged between 16 and 25

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel visited the Youth Enquiry Service at the Jersey Youth Service as part of its review into mental health services. The Panel met with six young people aged between 16 and 25. Topics discussed at the meeting included the availability of facilities for young people, the perception of mental health among young people, how mental health is dealt with in schools, accessing and using mental health services in Jersey – including via GPs, the emergency department and Child and Adult Mental Health Services (CAMHS), and transitioning between services.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

People providing personal testimony Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

In accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 25, the Panel held five private hearings with people who wanted to share their experience of accessing and using mental health services in Jersey.

The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

The Panel agreed that the transcript would not be published to maintain the privacy and confidentiality of the individuals concerned.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

People providing personal testimony Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

In accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 25, the Panel held six private hearings with people who wanted to share their experience of accessing and using mental health services in Jersey.

The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

The Panel agreed that the transcript would not be published to maintain the privacy and confidentiality of the individuals concerned.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Sue  Duhamel,  Director  of  Policy,  Department  for  Strategic  Policy, Performance and Population [Item 2]

Kate Morel , Policy Principal, Strategic Policy, Performance and Population [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meetings on 15th and 20th November 2018.

 

2.  Minimum Wage

The Panel met with Officers from the Department for Strategic Policy, Performance and Population to discuss the Draft Employment (Minimum Wage) (Amendment No.

15) (Jersey) Regulations 201-.

The Officers gave the Panel an overview of how the minimum wage system worked in Jersey. The minimum wage operated on a yearly cycle. The Employment Forum made a recommendation on the minimum wage to the Minister. The Minister then lodged a report  in  the  Assembly  setting  out  whether  they  accepted  or  rejected  the recommendation. The Minister subsequently made an Order to set the minimum wage for the following year. The Minister then lodged regulations on offsets to the minimum wage for approval by the Assembly. The annual cycle was designed to give employers at least 6 months' notice of any changes to the level of the minimum wage.

Other issues discussed included the Employment Forum and its work, the living wage and how the minimum wage is calculated.

 

3.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel noted the arrangements for its forthcoming public and private hearings.

The Panel considered some draft question plans in advance of the hearings. It noted that its mental health survey would close on Monday 3rd December.

 

 

4.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place on 13th December 2018.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Dr David Bailey, Primary Care Body [Item 2]

Lucy Nicolaou, mental health nurse and LINC service manager, L.I.N.C. Mental Health & Wellbeing [Item 2]

David Ogilvie, Managing Director, Resilience Development Company [Item 2]

Liz Kendrick-Lodge, Service Development Manager, Mind Jersey [Item 2] Stephen McCrimmon, Carer & Family Support Manager, Mind Jersey [Item 2]

Beth Moore , Manager, Jersey Recovery College [Item 2]

Ben Bennett, Chair, Jersey Recovery College [Item 2]

Deborah McMillan, Children's Commissioner [Item 2]

Tara Murphy, Policy Principal, Office of the Children's Commissioner [Item 2]

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel noted and agreed the minutes from the meetings on 23rd, 26th and 29th November 2018.

 

2.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel held a hearing in public with representatives from the Primary Care Body, L.I.N.C. Mental Health & Wellbeing and the Resilience Development Company. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

The Panel held a hearing in public with representatives from Mind Jersey and the Jersey Recovery College. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

The Panel held a hearing in public with the Children's Commissioner. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

The Panel noted the correspondence it had received from members of the public and organisations in relation to its review. The Panel agreed to invite the relevant people to a public hearing.

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3.  Health and Community departmental changes

The Panel noted the letter it had received from the Health and Community Services Department regarding proposals to establish a new Board for the Department. It noted the consultation documents it had received in relation to the Department's new Target Operating Model. The Panel agreed to invite the Minister for Health and Social Services and relevant officials to a public hearing to discuss the changes in more detail.

The Panel agreed to write to the Comitédes Connétable s to ask about its engagement with the Health and Community Services Department in  relation to provision of services in the Parishes.

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4.  Quarterly hearing

The Panel noted the letter it had received from the Minister for Social Security. It agreed to publish the letter on its website.

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5.  Future programme

The Panel considered its future programme and noted that its next scheduled meeting would take place on 10th January 2019.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Apologies

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Absent

 

In attendance

Patricia Winchester, Executive Director, Independent Advocacy My Voice Jersey

Person providing personal testimony

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

In accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 26, the Panel held a private hearing with Independent Advocacy My Voice Jersey. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made. The Panel agreed that the transcript would not be published to maintain the confidentiality of the organisation concerned.

In accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 25, the Panel held a private hearing with an individual who wanted to share their experience of accessing and using mental health services in Jersey. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made. The Panel agreed that the transcript would not be published to maintain the privacy and confidentiality of the individuals concerned.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Apologies

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Absent

 

In attendance

Mark Le Feuvre, Head of Access Networks, Core Technical Services, JT Lee Beech, Health and Safety Supervisor, JT

Steve Appleton, Managing Director, Contact Consulting

Person providing personal testimony

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel held a hearing in public with representatives from JT. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

The Panel held a hearing in public with a representative from Contact Consulting. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.

In accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolute Exemption Article 25, the Panel held a private hearing with an individual who wanted to share their experience of accessing and using mental health services in Jersey. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made. The Panel agreed that the transcript would not be published to maintain the privacy and confidentiality of the individuals concerned.

 

Present

Deputy Mary Le Hegarat , Chairman Deputy Kevin Pamplin, Vice-Chairman Deputy Carina Alves

Deputy Trevor Pointon

Apologies

 

Absent

 

In attendance

Dr. Miguel Garcia, Consultant Psychiatrist, Adult Mental Health Dr. Catherine Keep, Consultant Child Management Psychiatrist, C.A.M.H.S.

Dr. Laura Posner, Consultant Clinical Psychologist, C.A.M.H.S. Simba Kashiri, Acting Head, Alcohol and Drugs Service

Mike Swain, Clinical Nurse Practitioner, Adult Mental Health

Tom Leveridge, Scrutiny Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Assessment of Mental Health Services

The Panel held a hearing in public with mental health clinicians. The proceedings were recorded in order that a transcript could be made.