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Approved Panel Minutes - Migration and Population Review Panel - 2022

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Migration and Population Review Panel

Records of Meetings

Year: 2022

The following records of meetings have been approved by the Panel. Signed

Chair

Migration and Population Review Panel

Migration and Population Review Panel

Record of Meeting

Meeting held by video conference

Date:  4th January 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Records of Meetings

The Panel approved the records of the meeting held on the 13th December 2021.

 

2. Common Population Policy Review

The Panel noted that a public hearing with the Assistant Chief Minister as part of its Common Population Policy Review had been scheduled for 1pm on 6 January 2022, and agreed that this should be held electronically via Microsoft Teams.

The Panel noted and discussed a draft question plan. The Panel agreed that this would be reviewed and updated electronically prior to the public hearing, and that the Panel would meet 30 minutes before the meeting to discuss further. The Panel agreed that the Chair would meet separately with officers in order to include additional depth questions in the question plan.

The Panel agreed that communications officers should be invited to attend the public hearing  in  order  to  form  either  a  press  release  or  relevant  social  media communications arising from the public hearing.

The Panel agreed that it would meet at 12:30pm on 6 January 2022 via Microsoft Teams to discuss further.

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Date:  6th January 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer Ella Nicholas, Communications Officer

Item 2 only

Deputy Rowland Huelin, Assistant Chief Minister

Sue Duhamel, Head of Policy, Strategic Policy, Planning and Performance

Michelle Clark, Senior Policy Officer, Population Policy

Neil Stocks, Senior Policy Officer, Immigration and Migration Policy

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Pre-Hearing Meeting

The Panel discussed question topics for the Public hearing with the Assistant Chief Minister scheduled for later that day and agreed that a letter with any additional questions would be sent following the hearing.

 

2. Common Population Policy Review Public Hearing

The Panel received the Assistant Chief Minister and officers for a public hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review (the Review). The hearing was recorded and transcribed.

 

3. Post-Hearing meeting

The Panel discussed the Public Hearing and agreed that letters would be sent to relevant Ministers regarding elements of the Common Population Policy (the Policy) under their remits, this included Housing, Economic Productivity and Education.

The Panel agreed that key points of the hearing should be communicated through a press release. This would include:

  • That the Policy looked to the future
  • That the Assistant Chief Minister would wish for the public to acknowledge the complicated nature of the subject
  • That amendments to the Control of Housing and Work (Jersey) Law 2012 could be expected by 14 January 2021

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  • The need for the Government of Jersey to decide upon and use a single population growth format
  • The confirmation of the need to be more welcoming to those coming to the island, and the need to communicate the importance of migrants
  • The potential need for further increases to the pension age
  • That a full-time officer was not allocated the Assistant Chief Minister to form the Policy until May 2021
  • That the Government of Jersey departmental 2022 business plans could be expected to be published by the end of January 2022
  • That resourcing was a challenge to forming an eCensus and that this would be a task for the next Council of Ministers
  • That not all of the requirements of P.120/2021 Migration and Population Data

could be met

 

4. Common Population Policy Review

The Panel noted and discussed a briefing paper updating it on the level of stakeholder and public engagement with the Review.

The Panel agreed that social media polls should be used to ascertain answers to short questions, whilst directing members of the public to the Policy and to contact the Panel should they wish to make a fuller submission to the Review. The Panel discussed draft questions and following alterations agreed that these should focus on:

  • Whether the policy and the timeframe set for providing population forecasts (2025) met the expectations of the public ,
  • Whether the policy is able to achieve its aim to reduce reliance on net inward migration

The Panel discussed engagement with stakeholders and agreed that invitations should be sent to a selection of those in correspondence with the Panel to attend public or private hearings to discuss the Policy. The Panel agreed that these should be held in the afternoon of Monday 17th January, Thursday 20th January or Friday 21st January 2022, recalling that the States Assembly was sitting on Tuesday 18th January 2022.

The Panel agreed that the Review's Call for Evidence should be directly forwarded to the Jersey Tenants Forum.

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5. Future Meeting

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled for 2pm on Friday 14th January 2022 to be held via Microsoft Teams.

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Date:  14th January 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer Ella Nicholls, Communications Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of Meetings

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on the 4th and 6th January 2022.

 

2.  Common Population Policy Review

The Panel received and approved a draft Heads of Report for its Common Population Policy Review (the Review).

The Panel received an update from Officers on submissions made to the Review, noting that four submissions had been received from members of the public. The Panel was also updated on the progress of snap polls being undertaken with the public via social media platforms, noting that the first of the polls had received 17 responses and that a further two polls were due to be carried out during the course of the Review. The Panel agreed that these should be promoted and that ways of communicating the Review and consulting with those not digitally minded should also be considered.

The Panel discussed public and private hearings with stakeholders, recalling that invitations to attend upon the Panel had been forwarded following agreement at its meeting of the 6th January 2022. The Panel agreed that Officers should schedule any hearings based on Panel and Stakeholder availability.

The Panel noted that a public hearing with the Chief Minister and Assistant Chief Minister had been scheduled to take place at 1pm on Monday 24th January 2022. The Panel noted that due to prior commitments the Chief Minister would only be able to attend the first 45 minutes of the hearing. The Panel agreed that question topics would be broadly similar to those covered in the public hearing with the Assistant Chief Minister held 6th January 2022.

The Panel noted and discussed a letter from the Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture, received on the 13th January 2022 in response to its letter of 7th January 2022. The Panel expressed concern that the Productivity Support

 

 

Scheme was in a pilot stage. It was noted that this information has been shared with the Chair of the Economic and International Affairs Panel for further investigation.

The Panel noted and discussed a letter from the Minister for Children and Education, received on the 13th January 2022 in response to its letter of the 7th January 2022.

The  Panel  noted  and  discussed  a  letter  from  the  Minister  for  Housing  and Communities, received on the 13th January 2022 in response to its letter of the 7th January  2022.  The  Panel  noted  that   Deputy  Rowland  Huelin  held  political responsibility for the development of a property register and agreed that the progress of this would be questioned further.

The Panel noted that amendments to the Control of Housing and Work (Jersey) Law

 

2012 had not yet been lodged with the Assembly but were expected to be that day.

3.  Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled for 1pm on Wednesday 19th January 2022 to be held via Microsoft Teams.

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Date:  19th January 2022

 

Present

Deputy Steve Ahier Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer Ella Nicholls, Communications Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Records of Meetings

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on the 14th January 2022.

 

2. Common Population Policy Review

The Panel received an update from Officers on submissions made to the Review, noting that two submissions had been received from members of the public, in addition to the four previously received. The Panel was also updated on the progress of snap polls being undertaken with the public via social media platforms, noting that the second of the three polls had received 10 responses prior to closing and that a final poll had so far received 8 responses.

The Panel discussed public and private hearings with stakeholders noting that four had been scheduled:

  • Friday 21st January 2022
  • at 11am with the Jersey Farmers Union
  • at 1pm with Jim Hopley, Chair Jersey Disability Partnership, as a Public Hearing
  • at 3pm with the Jersey Hospitality Association
  • Monday 24th January 2022
  • At 11am with the Children's Commissioner for Jersey, in public

The Panel noted that question plans were being drafted and agreed that these would be reviewed electronically.

The Panel discussed the public hearing with the Chief Minister and Assistant Chief Minister, scheduled to take place at 1pm on Monday 24th January 2022, and agreed question topics noting that additional questions would be added following the hearings with stakeholders. The Panel agreed that the questions would be discussed further at the pre-hearing meeting scheduled for 12:30pm on Monday 24th January 2022.

 

 

The Panel discussed potential amendments to P.116/2021. The Panel agreed that a draft amendment would be formed to require the publication of population forecasts prior to 2025.

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3. Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled for Friday 21st January 2022 to be held via Microsoft Teams.

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Date:  21st January 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

Item 1 only

Murray Norton, Chief Executive Officer, Jersey Chamber of Commerce John Shenton, Vice President, Jersey Chamber of Commerce

Item 2 only

Peter Le Maistre, President, Jersey Farmers Union Jane Rueb, Executive Secretary, Jersey Farmers Union

Item 3 only

Jim Hopley, Honorary Chair, Jersey Disability Partnership Ella Nicholls, Communications Officer, States Greffe

Item 4 only

Member of the Public

Item 5 only

Claire Boscq, Chief Executive Officer, Jersey Hospitality Association

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. Meeting with Jersey Chamber of Commerce

The  Panel  welcomed  representatives  of  the  Jersey  Chamber  of  Commerce  for discussion as part of its Common Population Policy Review. This meeting was held in private in accordance with the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended) under Absolutely Exemption Article 26, a private record was produced.

 

2. Hearing with Jersey Farmers Union

The Panel welcomed representatives of the Jersey Farmers Union for a Private Hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review. The hearing was recorded and transcribed.

 

 

3. Public Hearing with Jim Hopley

The Panel welcomed Jim Hopley, Honorary Chair, Jersey Disability Partnership for a Public Hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review. The hearing was streamed live to the public, recorded and a transcript was produced.

 

4. Private Hearing with Member of the Public

The Panel welcomed a Member of the Public for a Private Hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review. The hearing was transcribed, the record of the meeting was classified as absolutely exempt in accordance with Article 26 of the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended).

 

5. Hearing with Jersey Hospitality Association

The  Panel  welcomed  Claire  Boscq,  Chief  Executive  Officer,  Jersey  Hospitality Association for a Private Hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review. The hearing was recorded and transcribed.

 

6. Common Population Policy Review

The Panel discussed the Public and Private Hearings that had taken place that day, noting that some confusion had arisen over the aspirational nature of achieving net zero inward migration.

The Panel noted and discussed a draft amendment to P.116/2022. The Panel agreed that it would review electronically and discuss further on Monday 24th January 2022.

The Panel discussed the Public Hearing with the Children's Commissioner for Jersey, scheduled for 11am on Monday 24th January 2022, and reviewed the question plan.

The Panel discussed the Public Hearing with the Chief Minister and Assistant Chief Minister scheduled to take place at 1pm on Monday 24th January 2022. The Panel noted a draft question plan and agreed on the addition of questions arising from discussions with stakeholders. Noting that the Chief Minister was only available for the first 45 minutes of the hearing the Panel agreed that questions for the Chief Minister would be asked first.

 

7. Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled for Monday 24th January 2022 to be held via Microsoft Teams.

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Date:  24th January 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer

Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

Ella Nicholls, Communications Officer, States Greffe

Item 1 only

Deborah McMillan, Children and Young People's Commissioner for Jersey Sam Le Quesne, Communications Officer, Office of the Children's Commissioner

Item 3 only

Senator John Le Fondré, Chief Minister (part of Item 3 only) Deputy Rowland Huelin, Assistant Chief Minister

Sue Duhamel, Head of Policy, Strategic Policy, Planning and Performance

Michelle Clark, Senior Policy Officer, Population Policy

Neil Stocks, Senior Policy Officer, Immigration and Migration Policy

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Public Hearing with  Children and Young People's Commissioner

The Panel welcomed the Children and Young People's Commissioner for Jersey, for a Public Hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review. The hearing was streamed live to the public, recorded and a transcript was produced.

 

2.  Pre-hearing meeting

The Panel discussed the upcoming hearing with the Chief Minister and Assistant Chief Minister, and agreed question areas that would be covered by each member.

 

3.  Public Hearing with Chief Minister and Assistant Chief Minister

The Panel welcomed the Chief Minister, Assistant Chief Minister and officers for a Public Hearing as part of its Common Population Policy Review. The Chief Minister, with the agreement of the Panel, departed the hearing early due to prior commitments. The hearing was streamed live to the public, recorded and a transcript was produced.

 

 

4. Common Population Policy Review

The Panel discussed the hearings with the Chief Minister, Assistant Chief Minister and Children and Young People's Commissioner for Jersey. The Panel agreed that key points from the hearing should be communicated via sperate press releases.

The Panel agreed that it would not seek to lodge an amendment to P.116/2022 Common Population Policy.

The Panel noted the lodging of the Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202- [P.13/2022] and agreed that consideration of the proposition was needed.

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5. Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled for 1.30pm on Thursday 27 January 2022 to be held via Microsoft Teams.

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Date:  27th January 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Common Population Policy Review

The Panel discussed the Common Population Policy, and it was confirmed by officers that a report was being drafted. The Panel agreed that it would review the draft report once received electronically prior to meeting on Wednesday 2 February 2022 to discuss further.

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2.  P.13/2021 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-

The  Panel  noted  and  discussed  P.13/2022  Draft  Control  of  Housing  and  Work

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(Amendment)  (Jersey)  Law  202-.  The  Panel  expressed  concern  that  further regulations may be needed to implement migration controls. The Panel agreed that a briefing on P.13/2022 would be requested from Government Officers on Friday 4 February 2022, the Panel further agreed that question areas would be forwarded prior to the meeting.

3.  Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled for 12pm on Wednesday 2 February 2022 to be held via Microsoft Teams.

 

Date:  2nd February 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of meetings

The Panel agreed that due to pressure on time the minutes of the meetings of 19th, 21st and 27th January would be approved electronically.

 

2.  Common Population Policy Review

The Panel reviewed the draft report of the Common Population Policy Review and requested that officers make additional findings and recommendations. It was agreed that the final report would be approved electronically once finalised.

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3.  P.13/2021 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-

The Panel noted that a briefing with Government officers to discuss the Control of Housing and Work Law amendment was due to be held on 7th February and requested that officers finalise a list of questions and concerns ahead of that meeting.

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4.  Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be held on Monday 7th February.

 

Meeting held electronically

Date:  4th February 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Common Population Policy Review

The Panel reviewed and approved a final version of S.R.2/2022 Common Population Policy Review for publication.

 

Meeting held by video conference

Date:  7th February 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

Item 1 Only

Sue Duhamel, Director, Strategic Policy, Performance and Population Neil Stocks, Senior Policy Officer, Immigration and Migration Policy Michelle Clark, Senior Policy Officer, Population Policy

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of Minutes

The Panel approved the records of the meeting held on the 19th, 21st, 24th and 27th January 2022.  

 

2.  Briefing on Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-

The Panel welcomed Government of Jersey Officers who briefed it on P.13/2022, Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202- (the Draft Law). The

 

record of the meeting was classified as exempt in accordance with Articles 26 and 35 of the Freedom of Information (Jersey) Law 2011 (as amended).

3.  Non-review work

The Panel noted and discussed a legislative programme timeline and agreed that consideration of relevant legislation, namely secondary legislation for the Control of Housing and Work Law amendments would be given.

 

4.  Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-

The Panel discussed the Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202- (the Draft Law). The Panel agreed that consideration would be given to carrying out a review, or if a comments paper and amendments would be formed separately. The Panel noted that the deadline for any amendments to P.13/2022 was 15th March 2022.

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The Panel agreed that findings and recommendations of its report S.R.16/2020, following its review of P.137/2020 Migration Control Policy, would be revisited in order to establish any questions to forward to the Chief Minister in relation to the Draft Law.

The Panel further agreed that Members would provide any additional questions to the Panel's Officer for inclusion by Thursday 10th February 2022.

 

5. Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that it would meet at 2.15pm on Monday 14th February 2022 via Microsoft Teams.

 

Meeting held by video conference

Date:  14th February 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Records of Minutes

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on the 2nd, 4th and 7th February 2022.  

 

2.  P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-

The Panel discussed a review of the P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202- and agreed that it would prepare a comments paper. The  Panel  requested  that  officers  present  a  number  of  additional  questions  to Government officers.

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3.  Public Hearing

The Panel requested that officers set up a Public Hearing with the Assistant Chief Minister on 24th February 2022 between 11am and 12.30pm in relation to its review of P.13/2022.

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4.  Future Meetings

The Panel agreed that it would meet at 10.45 am on Thursday 24th February 2022.

 

Date:  28th February 2022

 

Present

Deputy Steve Ahier Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer

Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

Ella Nicholas, Communications Officer (absent item 1)

Item 2 only

Deputy Rowland Huelin, Assistant Chief Minister

Sue Duhamel, Head of Policy, Strategic Policy, Planning and Performance

Michelle Clark, Senior Policy Officer, Population Policy

Neil Stocks, Senior Policy Officer, Immigration and Migration Policy

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Pre-Hearing Meeting

The Panel discussed question topics for the Public Hearing with the Assistant Chief Minister scheduled for later that day, the Panel agreed question areas to be covered by each member.

 

2.  P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202- Public Hearing

The Panel received the Assistant Chief Minister and officers for a Public Hearing to discuss P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202. The hearing was recorded and transcribed.

 

3.  Post-Hearing meeting

The Panel discussed the Public Hearing and agreed that key points of the hearing should be communicated through a press release.

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4.  Future Meeting

The Panel agreed that a meeting would be scheduled to discuss the Public Hearing with the Panel Chair on Wednesday 2 March 2022 or Thursday 3 March 2022.

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Date:  2nd March 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

Apologies

 

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1. P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-

The Panel discussed action regarding P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work

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proposition.

The Panel agreed that a Comments Paper should be drafted for its approval.

Date:  21st March 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on 14th and 28th February and 2nd March.

 

2.  P.13/2022 Draft Control of Housing and Work (Amendment) (Jersey) Law 202-  

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3.  Ministerial Response – S.R.2/2022 – Common Population Policy Review

The Panel reviewed and noted the Ministerial Response to its review of the Common Population Policy. It agreed that no additional action was required.

 

4.  Migration and Population Review Panel – Legacy report

The Panel requested that officers produce a draft legacy report for the Panel. It also requested that the work of the Panel would be ongoing following the June 2022 election and the selection of a new Council of Ministers. The Panel asked that a recommendation be made to the Scrutiny Liaison Committee that consideration be given to reforming a Migration and Population Review Panel to undertake this work following the election.

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5.  Future meetings

The Panel agreed that a date would be confirmed following the production of a first draft of the Legacy Report.

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Meeting held by electronic mail

Date:  29th April 2022

 

Present

Senator Steve Pallett, Chair Deputy Steve Ahier

Deputy Graham Truscott

In attendance

Anna Thorne , Committee and Panel Officer Peter Lamy , Research and Project Officer

 

Agenda matter

Action

1.  Minutes

The Panel approved the records of the meetings held on 21st March 2022.

 

2.  Legacy Report

The Panel reviewed and approved its Legacy Report.