States Assembly | Survey Results - Minimum Earnings Threshold - Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel

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Minimum Earnings Threshold Survey

Employment information


1. Do you undertake any employment where you are employed for less than 8 hours a week?

Answer Choices		Response Percent	Response Total
1	Yes	59.05%	62
2	No	40.95%	43
		answered	105
		skipped	1


2. Is the job(s) that you work less than 8 hours per week your main employment?

Answer Choices		Response Percent	Response Total
1	Yes	36.63%	37
2	No	63.37%	64
		answered	101
		skipped	5

Salary by Sector


3. For each sector that you work in for less than 8 hours per week, please select your salary:

	Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour)	Between Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour) and the Living Wage (£10.96 per hour)	Living Wage (£10.96 per hour) or higher)	Prefer not to say	Response Total

Salary

Financial Services	13.3% (2)	13.3% (2)	40.0% (6)	33.3% (5)	15
Public Sector	7.7% (1)	7.7% (1)	61.5% (8)	23.1% (3)	13
Hospitality	20.0% (3)	20.0% (3)	40.0% (6)	20.0% (3)	15


3. For each sector that you work in for less than 8 hours per week, please select your salary:

			Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour)	Between Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour) and the Living Wage (£10.96 per hour)	Living Wage (£10.96 per hour) or higher)	Prefer not to say	Response Total
Retail			21.4% (3)	21.4% (3)	21.4% (3)	35.7% (5)	14
Agriculture			14.3% (1)	28.6% (2)	14.3% (1)	42.9% (3)	7
						answered	46
						skipped	60

Other (please specify job): (21)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9	08/10/2021	Construction admin
	18:09 PM
	ID:
	176210382
	09/10/2021	Private home
	16:37 PM
	ID:
	176251454
	10/10/2021	Theatre technician
	10:03 AM
	ID:
	176270506
	10/10/2021	Administration
	20:46 PM
	ID:
	176302030
	11/10/2021	Bookkeeper for IT consulting firm.
	21:10 PM
	ID:
	176392487
	13/10/2021	Hospitality, 2 jobs - one at £14 p.h., one at £15 p.h. - rates higher than any of the options provided. Perhaps another tick box ("Other") - where people could specify their rates. Think how much more useful info could be drawn from that!
	08:41 AM
	ID:
	176506656
	13/10/2021	Private Sector
	21:18 PM
	ID:
	176585281
	14/10/2021	Other private sector
	22:33 PM
	ID:
	176674442
	18/10/2021	Motorcycle CBT instructor
	10:35 AM
	ID:
	176824106


3. For each sector that you work in for less than 8 hours per week, please select your salary:

			Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour)	Between Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour) and the Living Wage (£10.96 per hour)	Living Wage (£10.96 per hour) or higher)	Prefer not to say	Response Total
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21	19/10/2021	General admin for a Gaming business
	06:12 AM
	ID:
	176901868
	20/10/2021	Supply teacher, some weeks I earn less some weeks more
	21:59 PM
	ID:
	177070795
	21/10/2021	Nursery worker- 9.57 an hour
	12:33 PM
	ID:
	177104358
	21/10/2021	Assistane to elderly individual
	12:44 PM
	ID:
	177104919
	21/10/2021	Charity £15 per week
	14:23 PM
	ID:
	177115427
	21/10/2021	Medical
	15:01 PM
	ID:
	177118998
	21/10/2021	Private cleaning
	15:47 PM
	ID:
	177119755
	21/10/2021	Legal
	17:32 PM
	ID:
	177137696
	21/10/2021	Adhoc paid work in the charity sector
	20:48 PM
	ID:
	177150835
	22/10/2021	Teacher Wage
	06:22 AM
	ID:
	177191034
	22/10/2021	Instead of trying to fill your own pockets to get in the 1%, why don't you get rich from doing your own work. Government don't have long left until the public turn on you. It's happening in other places in the world.
	06:33 AM
	ID:
	177191598
	22/10/2021	Just starting a small events business
	06:49 AM	Just starting a small events business


3. For each sector that you work in for less than 8 hours per week, please select your salary:

		Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour)	Between Minimum Wage (£8.32 per hour) and the Living Wage (£10.96 per hour)	Living Wage (£10.96 per hour) or higher)	Prefer not to say	Response Total
	ID:
	177192721

Demographics


4. To which gender do you most identify?

Answer Choices				Response Percent	Response Total
1	Male			18.03%	11
2	Female			78.69%	48
3	Non-binary			0.00%	0
4	Prefer not to say			0.00%	0
5	Other (please specify):			3.28%	2
				answered	61
				skipped	45

Other (please specify): (2)

1 2		21/10/2021	I identify as a human
		20:48 PM
		ID:
		177150835
		22/10/2021	Go figure
		06:33 AM
		ID:
		177191598


5. What is your age?

Answer Choices		Response Percent	Response Total
1	16-24	20.97%	13
2	25-34	16.13%	10
3	35-44	24.19%	15


5. What is your age?

4	45-54	12.90%	8
5	55-64	24.19%	15
6	65+	1.61%	1
		answered	62
		skipped	44

Social Security


6. How do you currently pay your Social Security contributions?

Answer Choices		Response Percent	Response Total
1	Class 1: my employer pays them through deductions from my main job	55.74%	34
1
2	Class 2: I pay these directly to Social Security on receipt of a contributions statement	1.64%	1
3	I pay through a combination of Class 1 and Class 2 Social Security contributions	4.92%	3
4	I do not pay social security contributions	24.59%	15
5	Prefer not to answer	3.28%	2
6	Don't know	9.84%	6
		answered	61
		skipped	45


7. Do you receive low-income contribution relief or currently have contribution credits that cover your record of contributions?

Answer Choices		Response Percent	Response Total
1	Yes	11.29%	7
2	No	70.97%	44
3	Don't know	17.74%	11
4	Prefer not to answer.	0.00%	0
		answered	62

Do you receive low-income contribution relief or currently have contribution credits that cover your record of contributions?

skipped 44


8. Overall, please provide your views about the Minimum Earnings Threshold?

Answer Choices				Response Percent	Response Total
1	Open-Ended Question			100.00%	61
	1	08/10/2021	.
		18:09 PM
		ID:
		176210382
	2	08/10/2021	.
		19:37 PM
		ID:
		176216146
	3	09/10/2021	Doesn't apply to me
		16:37 PM
		ID:
		176251454
	4	10/10/2021	Far too low.
		10:03 AM
		ID:
		176270506
	5	10/10/2021	If this came into action my employment would end.
		20:46 PM
		ID:
		176302030
	6	11/10/2021	Good
		01:48 AM
		ID:
		176307514
	7	11/10/2021	.
		16:37 PM
		ID:
		176368547
	8	11/10/2021	Keep it the same and don't change! Working up to 8 hours a week is simple and workable for employee and employer.
		21:10 PM
		ID:
		176392487
	9	12/10/2021	Generally, I do not get financially remunerated for my daily work. Besides from being [ANONYMOUS]. Although I am not remunerated for all my efforts, I know that my daily labours are valued in society. Occasionally, I am able to perform work and am financially compensated. This is not regular or reliable income. I have just started a short term contract and as a result, I am not sure how my social security is deducted. I estimate that my earnings will not exceed [ANONYMOUS] My view on social security and possible changes to come: Please consider protecting the family, protecting parents who invest time in their children and are present in their lives. It is easy to chase a career and neglect everything else. It is harder to lay aside your own career plans for the benefit of others. Also, protect those who do not necessarily get paid for their work. Are charities able to motivate for social security
		07:54 AM
		ID:
		176403290

Overall, please provide your views about the Minimum Earnings Threshold?

exceptions for their regular volunteers? We scrape through financially each month and are critically careful with our spending. [ANONYMOUS] and our family is careful with every penny so that we can invest our lives into our children. Please support those families who do not earn exorbitantly and who struggle with the rising cost of living in Jersey.

10 12/10/2021 No comments to make

11:20 AM

ID:

176424240

11 12/10/2021 [ANONYMOUS]

19:46 PM

ID:

176485518

12 13/10/2021 THE 8 HOURS SHOULD REMAIN, by changing it to an amount it'll be super easy to

07:29 AM increase or surpass and soon be a condemned to history - the people who only work 8hrs

ID: per week or less will be penalised.

176503121 Another way to tax the poorest in society - everyone should be able to work 8hrs a week

without paying social. I doubt there are many people earning £100 per hour for 8hrs a week- it's mostly students with Saturday jobs, old people trying to top up their pensions and single parents with limited childcare.

Why not increase (or even double!) the hourly rate of social security contributions for those who earn more than £100k per year instead?

If you have no tangible data on the number or type of people who fall into this category as they don't pay social, how can you possibly know the impact it will have on them? Hardly likely you will take any notice of the result of this survey, is it?

13 13/10/2021 Many people working less than 8 hours a week do so in a secondary role, already paying

08:41 AM social security via their main employer.

ID: I already receive social security refunds most quarters, as I've overpaid over the combination 176506656 of jobs. Charging social security on all hours working is only going to increase the

administration of refunds.

14 13/10/2021 if i have to now pay social on top of income tax every week out of my [ANONYMOUS] its 18:17 PM not worth me working I may as well go back on income support as I would get more

ID: money and less stress.

176574664

15 13/10/2021 I pay exceptionally high tax and now it looks as though I am about to be penalised AGAIN by

21:18 PM the Sharing Caring Government of Jersey!

ID:

176585281 When will the Government of Jersey stop trying to screw the hardworking middle earners?

16 13/10/2021 I was unaware that this was happening, and am now fearful that this could impact my 21:36 PM already low income. As someone stuck like this due to disability, I am already struggling to

ID: pay rent, let alone live. This could be a further breaking point.

176586231

17 14/10/2021 This is only going to make it more difficult for the lowest earners, who face a future without a 19:26 PM pension. they will never make enough to contribute, so this is money for nothing for you. The

ID: small contribution will not add up to credit.. you wont send it back, so you're asking for 176664077 contributions from people who are not going to be entitled to the pension or benefits at the end of it. its taking advantage of the poorest.

18 14/10/2021 I don't believe it really matters what the public think, if this has been suggested by our

22:33 PM "government" then it's probably a done deal.

ID: The whole social security contribution/eligibility policy needs to be reviewed and revised. 176674442

19 18/10/2021 My full time job I work as [ANONYMOUS] and pay my contributions through this.

10:35 AM I work casual hours as [ANONYMOUS] which is less than 8 hours a week. I do this as it's ID: nice to give something back and [ANONYMOUS]. If the minimum earnings threshold was to

176824106 change I would be less inclined to carry out this part time work and I believe this to be the same opinion of many other [ANONYMOUS]. It would also put more pressure on my

employer as it is a business but has struggled through COVID

8. Overall, please provide your views about the Minimum Earnings Threshold?

and we all do this work not to earn a fortune but to try and get more people into [ANONYMOUS].

I feel changing this threshold would go against the public interest and is at the worst time to bring in such a change as many are struggling after COVID.

I also think this survey should be opened up for employers of employees who work in the threshold. As it will directly affect the employer not just the employee.

20 18/10/2021 This will impact on every student that has a Saturday job. I am [ANONYMOUS] and this 18:33 PM change will have a massive impact on my weekly earnings. I am only trying to help save for

ID: Uni. This is unfair

176881746

21 19/10/2021 I don't see how this addressing these issue of people working 8 hr or less for a few

06:12 AM employers which means they don't pay any social.

ID: There are many people who get away with not paying any social even though they work. 176901868

In my opinion everyone regardless of hours or hourly rate should pay social. This would solve the problem of people with multiple employers from ducking social. If their combined income allows them to then they will get their contributions back in a way through income support.

22 20/10/2021

12:33 PM I would like to understand how employee contributions would be treated when employee ID: already paying max contribution level in primary employment. I.e. if contributions are taken

177021076 for secondary employment as well will there be a way to limit amount paid or a refund to employee?

23 20/10/2021 No thoughts

13:28 PM

ID:

177027626

24 20/10/2021 I think it should stay the way it is as everyone seems to be struggling financially and people 20:21 PM who don't pay social security on the few hours they work might choose to stop working the 7

ID: hours they currently work and claim income support instead going forward which will make 177065983 things even worse. I have another job but not everyone does.

25 20/10/2021 Because [ANONYMOUS] I don't control when I work. For me contributions would need to

21:59 PM be averaged over the quarter after all they are charged each quarter then when

ID: [ANONYMOUS]or I'm not needed for a week I would not be penalized.

177070795

26 21/10/2021 As long as I get some money at the end of the month I am happy

07:39 AM

ID:

177079192

27 21/10/2021 I think that it is bad idea. This is just another way for free government to generate income.

12:11 PM It would be better if they managed their current resources better!

ID:

177102011

28 21/10/2021 Take from the high earners not the low ones! You earn, you pay!

12:32 PM

ID:

177104321

29 21/10/2021 So wrong, for young people like myself who have 0 hour jobs who some weeks work 20+

12:33 PM hours and some only 4 hours this is going to have a big impact.

ID:

177104358

30 21/10/2021 Ridiculous, instead of penalising low earners. Make the ones who can afford it by removing

12:34 PM the cap.

ID:

177104396

8. Overall, please provide your views about the Minimum Earnings Threshold?

31 21/10/2021 Low paid job means it is a struggle to survive as it is, the cost of basics, food etc has

12:40 PM rocketed, with various excuses for it, and GST on everything is enough of a problem without

ID: worrying endlessly about this change. Living scared is no good.

177104602

32 21/10/2021 Ridiculous.

12:44 PM When starting this small job of less than 8hrs pw I was told I was exempt as therfore applied

ID: for the LICR which is a huge help.

177104919

If I was to pay my social security for less than 8hrs this would take more than I'd be earning which would not make it worth while.

I do this job not for the money as I am also a [ANONYMOUS].

This is a kick in the teeth for those that wish to take on employment and try save some money.

It's all take take take and anyway that Jersey can find to take money of individuals they will. It's extremely unfair, there are many unemployed individuals who have openly said they are better on benefits than not but yet have everything paid for them, childcare, rent etc and those that wish to do better and earn a little get punished for it.

Wrong wrong wrong!!

33 21/10/2021 Robbing the poor again, I'm not surprised

12:51 PM

ID:

177106272

34 21/10/2021 Jersey is already a very difficult place to live if you do not earn a high wage, the current

12:58 PM living wage' is way too low as stands, people are already struggling to get by

ID:

177106885

35 21/10/2021 Is no enough for live in Jersey

13:26 PM

ID:

177109720

36 21/10/2021 I think the current social security minister is totally out of her depth and making poor

13:33 PM decisions at the cost of the lower paid in Jersey. It's time something is done as she seems to ID: continue to penalize the lower earners. She is not fit for her role and I pray she goes at the

177110329 next election

37 21/10/2021 Good idea

13:42 PM

ID:

177111331

38 21/10/2021 It is a joke

14:20 PM

ID:

177115325

39 21/10/2021 No opinion other than that life with a disability only able to work 8 hours a week in Jersey is 14:23 PM very hard - I would urge ministers to try to live fir a month on what we have to live on

ID:

177115427

40 21/10/2021 If your work is under 8hr per week and you do no other paid work you should not pay social

14:24 PM security contribution.

ID:

177115428

41 21/10/2021 If people are going to have to pay contributions for the very little they receive I think it's a 14:31 PM very slippery slope on the job market. Schools and private companies will be left with a very

low work force to fill the gaps where these ad hoc jobs fill. The economy isn't thriving as it is

8. Overall, please provide your views about the Minimum Earnings Threshold?

	ID:	with the shortage of labour with many sectors unable to fill all types of positions so if this comes into effect then It's definitely not going to bring the revenue that it's set out to. There is a high risk that all sectors will be putting at risk services and quality of workmanship they offer thus creating an overall discontent and dangerous environment as the ripple effect from charging contributions for every £66 people earn.
	177115765

42	21/10/2021	I don't think you should have to pay social on part time work where you are working less than 8 hours.
	14:48 PM
	ID:
	177118162
43	21/10/2021	I think this is completely unfair and is gona make people who work more to provide for there family struggle more potentially leave the island cause More problems in our economy for an example business is closing down.
	14:58 PM
	ID:
	177119071
44	21/10/2021	It needs to be kept at the 8 hrs or less as otherwise there is no point people doing these extra jobs if soc sec by salary
	15:01 PM
	ID:
	177118998
45	21/10/2021	No comment
	15:03 PM
	ID:
	177119807
46	21/10/2021	Should be higher and not taxed under a certain amount
	15:23 PM
	ID:
	177122078
47	21/10/2021	No fair ,as all bills are not taken in consideration as cost of living too high ,I'm at the stage that I have [ANONYMOUS] so I can cope with all the bills ,I'm a [ANONYMOUS] not legible to income support (even living in the island for [ANONYMOUS]) my circumstances doesn't allow me to work full time shift so in order to survive I had to get extra hours which is already tax deductible and at the end I can't even afford doctors visits and go or take my [ANONYMOUS] in holidays
	15:47 PM
	ID:
	177119755

48	21/10/2021	You sould tax the higher jobs. If i am doing part time it means i need the money to pay my bills.
	15:53 PM
	ID:
	177125256
49	21/10/2021	It will affect me.
	17:32 PM
	ID:
	177137696
50	21/10/2021	Why change it from 8hrs surly this is a mini part time if people start pulling out of these types of jobs out island will be in even more trouble.
	17:54 PM
	ID:
	177139196
51	21/10/2021	Very bad idea. Will draw more on low incomes into social security payments
	19:40 PM
	ID:
	177147400
52	21/10/2021	N/a
	19:58 PM
	ID:
	177148456
53	21/10/2021	As a [ANONYMOUS], I have to survive on my LTIB which is cut year on year although i get older my condition doesnt improve it does allow me to work a few hours here and there however its finding gainful employment and employers who will employ people with a
	20:48 PM

debilitating


8. Overall, please provide your views about the Minimum Earnings Threshold?

54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61	ID:	illness or chronic condition, i may not be able to [ANONYMOUS] but i have a wealth of knowledge but finding an employer who takes a chance on [ANONYMOUS] with an illness is very rare its usually shelf filling work they view you for as if your not capable of more sadly
	177150835

	21/10/2021	I am [ANONYMOUS] and I need these 7.5hrs to buy petrol, lunch money and so much more, I also know that even if I paid contributions I would not be able to claim anything until I am [ANONYMOUS].
	21:23 PM
	ID:
	177152907
	22/10/2021	What a load of rubbish, little work I do is very occasional (during school holidays) and goes towards costs of school uniforms and household essentials. My landlord has put up the rent by [ANONYMOUS] a month, any occasional drips of money I make is going to go towards paying the landlord and trying to survive. Taxing this tiny income is an intentional move to drive families deeper into poverty and they would probably be financially better off to not even try to raise funds. Throw this idea in the bin. Tax the wealthy.
	03:31 AM
	ID:
	177174550

	22/10/2021	I fibbed about working less than 8 hours at the start of this survey but that is because I used to and wanted to share my opinion with you. I used to work less than 8 hours [ANONYMOUS] because our children were very young and I wanted to raise them but we couldn't afford for me not to work. The reason people work 8 hours or less is probably for similar reasons to mine so to introduce this extra loss of income would certainly have been a strain for us I would have ended up working more hours to the detriment of my young children. Maybe my opinion is irrelevant but I just wanted you to consider the possible wider implications, forcing parents to work longer hours, of this comparatively small financial gain
	06:22 AM
	ID:
	177191034

	22/10/2021	for the government. If you really gotta get the public opinion or "poor people's" opinions then get out of the position you are in because you are no longer in the mindset you once were. Keep taking off the poor and crime will go through the roof, the jersey you once loved will be infested with stabbings, murder, suicide..the list goes on and it's blood on your hands. Jersey is a big council estate.
	06:33 AM
	ID:
	177191598

	22/10/2021	This currently allows me to dip my Toe in to starting up a business on the side of my current employment. Whether this takes off or not remains to be seen. Currently it is a hobby. Having to pay social security on such would have a massive impact on whether it is viable for me to continue. I have never heard any issues with employers collecting contributions for their employees so think this is just a good excuse to take from the people who earn below the threshold. This would also effect many students who only work a Saturday job. How about removing the cap on social security contributions? This seems a lot fairer than taking from people who either earn very little or only work a few extra hours a week on something else and already pay contributions. I also say this as someone who it would effect once a year due to receiving a bonus from my main employer. But I feel this would be a much fairer scenario for the government to collect more social security payments as that is clearly what this proposal is actually about.
	06:49 AM
	ID:
	177192721

	22/10/2021	I'm unsure
	23:47 PM
	ID:
	177342654
	24/10/2021	The minimum hours without paying social security should be kept and the percentage should be higher once earning more. Like when I was [ANONYMOUS], it was in my favour to work less then 8 hours a week or a lot more to pay it off.
	19:34 PM
	ID:
	177524481
	25/10/2021	Really struggling and refused help. I'm jersey and foreigners get all the help!
	07:22 AM
	ID:
	177552591
			answered	61
			skipped	45

Survey Results - Minimum Earnings Threshold - Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel - 25 October