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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 2nd March 2021, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of the Bailiff , Timothy John Le Cocq , Esquire.

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Connétable Sadie Anthea Le Sueur -Rennard of St. Saviour – excused attendance (joined at 11.28 a.m.) Deputy Jessica Harriet Perchard of St. Saviour – excused attendance

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – meeting held remotely

THE STATES assembled remotely, in accordance with Standing Order 55A, as the Bailiff considered that it was not possible to convene or maintain a quorate meeting in view of a substantial risk to the health of both States Members and the public.

Subordinate enactments tabled

The following enactments were tabled, namely –

Covid-19 (Workplace Restrictions) (Amendment No. 9) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.15/2021. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Road Traffic (Public Parking Places – Charges) (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.17/2021. Minister for Infrastructure.

Road Traffic ( St. Mary ) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.18/2021. Minister for Infrastructure.

Social Security (Contributions) (Covid-19) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.19/2021. Minister for Social Security.

Covid-19 (Gathering Control) (Amendment No. 2) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.20/2021. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Covid-19 (Gathering Control) (Amendment No. 3) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.21/2021. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Education (Grants and Allowances) (Amendment) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.22/2021. Minister for Education.

Road Traffic ( St. Saviour ) (Amendment No. 14) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.23/2021. Minister for Infrastructure.

Covid-19  (Workplace  Restrictions  and  Gathering  Control)  (Amendment  No.  2) R&O.24/2021. (Jersey) Order 2021.

Minister for Health and Social Services.

Prison (Amendment No. 5) (Jersey) Rules 2021.  R&O.25/2021. Minister for Home Affairs.

Covid-19 (Workplace – Twentieth Extension) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.26/2021. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Covid-19 (Gathering Control – Fourth Extension) (Jersey) Order 2021.  R&O.27/2021. Minister for Health and Social Services.

Road Traffic (Periodic Technical Inspections – General Provisions) (Amendment)  R&O.28/2021. (Jersey) Order 2021

Minister for Infrastructure.

Documents presented

Migration Control Policy (P.137/2020): third amendment  (P.137/2020 Amd.(3))   P.137/2020. Comments.  Amd.(3). Presented: 25th February 2021, Privileges and Procedures Committee.  Com.

Migration  Control  Policy (P.137/2020): third amendment (P.137/2020 Amd.(3))   P.137/2020. Comments.  Amd.(3). Presented: 26th February 2021, Council of Ministers.  Com.(2).

States of Jersey Law 2005: Delegation of Functions to Prison Governor – Minister for R.15/2021. Home Affairs – Revised Delegations February 2021.

Presented: 12th February 2021, Minister for Home Affairs.

Government Plan 2021 – 2024 (as amended).  R.16/2021. Presented: 15th February 2021, Council of Ministers.

Annex to the Government Plan 2021 – 2024.  R.17/2021. Presented: 15th February 2021, Council of Ministers.

Disability Strategy Update 2020.  R.18/2021. Presented: 15th February 2021, Minister for Social Security.

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Office Accommodation Project, R.19/2021. Union Street, St. Helier – Agreement.  (re-issue) Presented: 16th February 2021, Minister for Infrastructure.

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Office Accommodation Project, R.19/2021. Union Street, St. Helier – Agreement: Addendum.  Add. Presented: 16th February 2021, Minister for Infrastructure.

States of Jersey Law 2005- delegation of functions – Minister for Social Security – R.20/2021. revised delegations February 2021.

Presented: 16th February 2021, Minister for Social Security.

Notice under Article 29A(1)(b) of the States of Jersey Law 2005: Minister for Children R.21/2021. and Education and Minister for Housing and Communities.

Presented: 16th February 2021, Chief Minister.

Andium Homes Limited - Amendment to Transfer Agreement.  R.22/2021. Presented: 17th February 2021, Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Fiscal Policy Panel: Re-appointment of Member.  R.23/2021. Presented 22nd February 2021, Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Transfers Between Heads of Expenditure Under the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019: R.24/2021. Article 18 – 15th February 2021.

Presented: 23rd February 2021, Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – No.2 Maison D'Azette, La Grande R.25/2021. Route de St Cote, St Clement Cancellation of Existing 99-Year Lease and Transfer of

the Public's Flying-Freehold Ownership.

Presented: 24th February 2021, Minister for Infrastructure.

Conclusion of UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement - Inclusion of the Bailiwick R.26/2021. of Jersey.

Presented 24th February 2021, Council of Ministers.

Finance Law Delegation Report for the Six-Month Period to 31st December 2020.  R.27/2021. Presented 24th February 2021, Minister for Treasury and Resources.

Jersey Bank Depositors Compensation Board: Reappointment of Board members  R.28/2021. Presented 25th February 2021, Minister for External Relations.

Registration of births, deaths, stillbirths, marriage, conversion to marriage and civil R.29/2021. partnerships: Annual Statement for 2020

Presented 26th February 2021, Minister for Home Affairs.

Inclusion of the Bailiwick of Jersey in the UK/EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement: S.R.4/2021. Goods and Trade.

Presented: 19th February 2021, Brexit Review Panel.

Inclusion of the Bailiwick of Jersey in the UK/EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement: S.R.5/2021. Fisheries.

Presented: 19th February 2021,  Environment, Housing and Infrastructure Scrutiny

Panel.

P.137/2020 Migration Control Policy (Phase 1) Review.  S.R.6/2021. Presented 25th February 2021, Migration Population Review Panel.

Safer Travel Guidelines: Final Report (S.R.8/2020) – Response of the Minister for S.R.8/2020. Health and Social Services.  Res. Presented: 11th February 2021, Minister for Health and Social Services.

Scrutiny Review of the Government Plan: 2021-2024 – Children, Education and Home S.R.11/2020. Affairs Scrutiny Panel (S.R.11/2020): Joint Ministerial Response.  Res. Presented: 12th February 2021, Minister for Home Affairs.

Notification of lodged propositions

Encroachments  on  the  Foreshore:  Revised  Policy  (P.111/2020)   amendment P.111/2020. (P.111/2020 Amd.): amendment.  Amd.Amd. Presented: 24th February 2021, Minister for Infrastructure.

Encroachments on the Foreshore: Revised Policy (P.111/2020) – second amendment.  P.111/2020. Presented: 16th February 2021, Minister for Infrastructure.  Amd.(2). Migration Control Policy (P.137/2020): second amendment.   P.137/2020. Lodged: 16th February 2021, Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour . Amd.(2).

Migration Control Policy (P.137/2020) – second amendment (P.137/2020 Amd.(2)) –  P.137/2020 amendment.  Amd.(2). Lodged: 23rd February 2021, Chief Minister.  Amd.

Migration Control Policy (P.137/2020): third amendment.  P.137/2020. Presented: 16th February 2021, Migration and Population Review Panel Amd.(3).

Improvements to Road Safety (P.5/2021): amendment.  P.5/2021. Lodged: 19th February 2021, Minister for Infrastructure.  Amd.

Improvements to Road Safety (P.5/2021): second amendment.  P.5/2021. Lodged: 26th February 2021, Senator S.C. Ferguson.  Amd.(2).

Draft States of Jersey Police Force (Amendment No.3) Law 202-.  P.10/2021. Lodged: 17th February 2021, Minister for Home Affairs.  (re-issue)

Minimum Wage Increase  P.11/2021. Lodged: 25th February 2021, Deputy G. Southern of St Helier.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposers of the following propositions lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that they had been withdrawn –

Migration Control Policy (P.137/2020): amendment.  P.137/2020. Lodged: 23rd October 2020, Deputy J.H. Perchard of St. Saviour . Amd.

Migration Control Policy (P.137/2020): third amendment.  P.137/2020. Presented: 16th February 2021, Migration and Population Review Panel.  Amd.(3).

Written Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

WQ.39/2021  1.  The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 15th February 2021 to a

question asked by the Connétable of St Brelade regarding the tender for the provision of a new tug for the Ports of Jersey.

WQ.40/2021  2.  The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 15th February 2021 to a

question asked by Senator S.Y. Mézec regarding people earning over £1 million in Jersey. WQ.41/2021  3.  The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 15th February 2021 to a question asked by Deputy

K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour regarding unpublished Government reports.

WQ.42/2021  4.  The Minister for Education had tabled an answer on 15th February 2021 to a question asked by

Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding peak flow testing in schools.

WQ.44/2021  5.  H.M. Attorney General had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question asked by

Senator S.Y. Mézec regarding voting and the Powers of Attorney (Jersey) Law 1995.

WQ.45/2021  6.  The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question

asked by Senator S.Y. Mézec regarding increasing the level of the minimum wage to the same as the living wage.

WQ.46/2021  7.  The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 24th February 2021 to a question asked by Deputy

R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding conflicts of interest.

WQ.47/2021  8.  The Minister for Education had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question asked

by Deputy R.J. Ward of St Helier regarding the free school meals pilot programme.

WQ.48/2021  9.  The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question asked

by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding the priority given to pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders in Green Lanes.

WQ.49/2021  10. The Assistant Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 22nd February

2021 to a question asked by Senator S.C. Ferguson regarding JT network problems.

WQ.50/2021  11. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer on

22nd February 2021 to a question asked by Senator S.C. Ferguson regarding JT reliability and communication.

WQ.51/2021  12. The Minister for Education had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021to a question asked by

Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier regarding Lateral Flow Testing on Students.

WQ.52/2021  13. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier regarding the Jersey Covid Alert app. WQ.53/2021  14. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021to a

question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier regarding workforce testing.

WQ.54/2021  15. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding the rates of Income Support components. WQ.56/2021  16. The Minister for External Relations had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier regarding the impact of Brexit.

WQ.57/2021  17. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier regarding the Blue Badge Scheme.

WQ.58/2021  18. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a question asked

by Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier regarding the Blue Badge Scheme.

WQ.59/2021  19. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding the recording of incidents in the Hospital and the wider health service.

WQ.60/2021  20. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding incident reports in the Hospital and the wider health service.

WQ.61/2021  21. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 22nd February 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding the Criminal Offences Confiscation Fund.

WQ.62/2021  22. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer on

1st March 2021 to a question asked by Deputy L.B.E. Ash of St. Clement regarding the football goals at F.B. Fields and Le Rocquier School.

WQ.63/2021  23. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question

asked by Senator S.Y. Mézec regarding Income Tax assessment bands for the years 2011 to 2021.

WQ.64/2021  24. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question

asked by Senator S.Y. Mézec regarding incomes above £1 million and relative low incomes. WQ.65/2021  25. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked by Senator

K.L. Moore regarding letters of instruction issued by Ministers.

WQ.66/2021  26. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021

to a question asked by Senator S.Y. Mézec regarding the declarations of interest made by States members as private residential landlords.

WQ.67/2021  27. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence regarding the charges levied by Jersey Electricity. WQ.68/2021  28. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence regarding the telecom charges levied by JT. WQ.69/2021  29. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy K.F. Morel of St Lawrence regarding the charges levied by Jersey Water. WQ.70/2021  30. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked

by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding the subsidy of the Home Energy Audit Scheme. WQ.71/2021  31. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked by

Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding the use of fuel in the Island.

WQ.72/2021  32. The Minister for Education had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked by

Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier regarding the use of consultants in the production of the education reform program.

WQ.73/2021  33. The Assistant Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked by

the Deputy of St. Mary regarding the prospective relocation of the Crematorium as part of the Hospital project at Overdale.

WQ.74/2021  34. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour regarding the selection of the Independent Advisory Panel to the Assisted Dying Citizens' Jury.

WQ.75/2021  35. The Minister for Children and Housing had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question

asked by Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour regarding staffing levels at the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service.

WQ.76/2021  36. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour regarding staffing levels in his department.

WQ.77/2021  37. H.M. Attorney General had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked by Deputy

M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding the concept of bias in relation to the activities of politicians, civil servants, the Law Officers' Department and the Judiciary.

WQ.78/2021  38. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked

by Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding Income Support.

WQ.79/2021  39. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier regarding High Value Residents.

WQ.80/2021  40. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy L.M.C Doublet of St. Saviour regarding the restrictions on gatherings.

WQ.81/2021  41. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy L.M.C Doublet of St. Saviour regarding  the risk assessments undertaken when exempting younger children from public health guidance.

WQ.82/2021  42. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 1st March 2021 to a

question asked by Deputy L.M.C Doublet of St. Saviour regarding the needs and rights of younger children in relation to the Covid-19 Winter Strategy.

The Bailiff , in accordance with Standing Order 12(4)(b), ruled that the answer tabled on 22nd February 2021 by the Minister for Treasury and Resources to the question asked by Deputy Michael Roderick Higgins of St. Helier (WQ.61/2021) contravened Standing Order 12(2A), and directed the Minister to submit an answer that did not contravene the Standing Order.

The Bailiff , in accordance with Standing Order 12(4)(b), ruled that the answer tabled on 1st March 2021 by the Minister for Health and Social Services to the question asked by Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour (WQ.82/2021) contravened Standing Order 12(2A), and directed the Minister to submit an answer that did not contravene the Standing Order.

Oral Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

OQ.34/2021  1.   Deputy K.G. Pamplin of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Children and Education

regarding the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on the implementation of the recommendations of the Independent Jersey Care Inquiry.

OQ.51/2021  2.   Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier asked a question of H.M. Attorney General regarding the

legal responsibility for oversight of the States of Jersey Police.

OQ.65/2021  3.   Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding legislation to

address cyber-abuse, cyberbullying and online trolling.

OQ.48/2021  4.   Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Social Security regarding

the changes to Income Support components since 2014.

OQ.63/2021  5.  Senator S.Y. Mézec asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding measures taken by the

Government of Jersey to address the impact of a long-term freeze in real-terms earnings. OQ.54/2021  6.   Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social

Services regarding the legal provisions regarding children under the age of 12 and gatherings. OQ.55/2021  7.  The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Treasury and Resources

regarding the review of the provision of public services by the Parishes.

OQ.46/2021  8.   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat of St. Helier asked a question of the Assistant Chief Minister regarding

the health services due to be relocated from Overdale to the former Les Quennevais School building.

OQ.57/2021  9.   Deputy S.M. Ahier of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services

regarding the restrictions on relatives visiting family members in care homes.

OQ.58/2021  10. Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier asked a question of the Chief Minister regarding the diversity

of citizens' panels and juries set up by the Government of Jersey.

OQ.61/2021  11. Deputy M. Tadier of St. Brelade asked a question of the Assistant Chief Minister regarding

consultation with the residents of Les Quennevais Park and Clos des Sables regarding the relocation of facilities from Overdale to the former Les Quennevais School site.

OQ.60/2021  12. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Social Security regarding

the discretion exercised in cases where an adult claimant of Income Support left work without good cause and their household included children.

OQ.45/2021  13. Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence asked a question of the Minister for International

Development regarding the actions taken to help people in developing countries to gain access to Covid-19 vaccines.

OQ.62/2021  14. Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for the Environment regarding

the records kept of incidences where a residential rental property had failed to meet fire safety standards.

OQ.52/2021  15. Deputy M.R. Higgins of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Social Security regarding

the discretion available to her in relation to the management of debts owed by Income Support recipients due to overpayments.

OQ.59/2021  16. Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services

regarding workforce testing for Covid-19.

OQ.56/2021  17. The Connétable of St. Helier asked a question of the Minister for Infrastructure regarding the

future use of the former police headquarters site in Rouge Bouillon.

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), the Connétable of St. Helier declared an interest that was not financial and remained in the Chamber for the question asked by Deputy Stephen Morrison Ahier of St. Helier of the Minister for Health and Social Services (OQ.57/2021).

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 63(9), a written response would be provided to each of the following oral questions that had not been asked during the time allowed at the meeting –

OQ.53/2021   Deputy L.M.C. Doublet of St. Saviour to the Minister for Children and Education regarding the

commitment to extend the number of weekly hours of nursery education provided by the Nursery Education Fund.

OQ.49/2021   Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier to the Chief Minister regarding the Government's commitment

to deliver meaningful increases to the minimum wage.

OQ.64/2021  Senator S.Y. Mézec to the Minister for Housing and Communities regarding the ambition set out in

the Jersey Homelessness Strategy that more affordable rents for social housing should be considered.

OQ.66/2021   Deputy I. Gardiner of St. Helier to the Minister for Infrastructure regarding legislation to prohibit

the use of plastic and paper bags.

OQ.47/2021   Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat of St. Helier to the Minister for Home Affairs regarding the Jersey- E.U.

Settlement Scheme.

OQ.50/2021   Deputy K.F. Morel of St. Lawrence to the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the

removal of the Nightingale Wing of the General Hospital from Millbrook.

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister External Relations and Financial Services for answered questions without notice from members.

The Minister for Health and Social Services answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Senator Sarah Craig Ferguson, agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 80, to suspend Standing Order 32 in order that her amendment (P.5/2021 Amd.(2)) to the proposition of the Connétable of St. Martin entitled Improvements to Road Safety' (P.5/2021) might be listed for consideration at the present meeting; and further agreed in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period in respect of the same amendment in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 38  CONTRE: 1  ABSTAIN: 1 Senator I.J. Gorst  Senator S.Y. Mézec   Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Senator S.C Ferguson

Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator T.A. Vallois

Senator S.W. Pallett

Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. Mary

Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy S.J. Pinel (C)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

Encroachments on the Foreshore: Revised Policy P.111/2020

THE STATES, commencing consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Infrastructure entitled Encroachments on the Foreshore: Revised Policy' (P.111/2020), commenced consideration of an amendment of the Deputy of Grouville (P.111/2020 Amd.) and, adopting an amendment of the Minister for Infrastructure (P.111/2020 Amd.Amd.), agreed that, in the proposed new paragraph (b), after the words "Minister for Infrastructure" the remaining words should be deleted and there should be substituted the words "to report back to the Scrutiny Panel with his proposals for setting out, in a map or plan, the public boundary".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 24 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator S.Y. Mézec Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H)


Senator S.C Ferguson Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore

Senator S.W. Pallett Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S) Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (a) of the amendment of the Deputy of Grouville , as amended, agreed that, after the words this proposition', there should be inserted the word "; and"; the existing paragraph should be designated as paragraph (a) and there should be inserted a new paragraph (b) as follows –

"(b) to request the Minister for Infrastructure to report back to the Scrutiny Panel with his proposals

for setting out, in a map or plan, the public boundary"

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 30  CONTRE: 15  ABSTAIN: 1

Senator S.C Ferguson  Senator L.J. Farnham   Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Senator T.A. Vallois  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator K.L. Moore  Senator S.Y. Mézec

Senator S.W. Pallett   Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Helier   Connétable of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Clement   Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Connétable of St. Saviour   Deputy of St. Ouen

Connétable of St. Brelade   Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Connétable of Grouville   Deputy K.F. Morel (L)

Connétable of St. John   Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

Connétable of Trinity   Deputy of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Peter   Deputy of Trinity

Connétable of St. Mary   Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Connétable of St. Martin   Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

Deputy J.A. Martin (H)   Deputy C.S. Alves (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy of St. Martin

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b) of the amendment of the Deputy of Grouville , as amended, agreed that –

on Page 2 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition, in the section entitled definitions' –

  1. the heading and associated definition of "Default boundary line" should be deleted;
  2. the heading and associated definition of "Fair and Proper Price " should be deleted;
  3. within the definition of "Historic encroachments" for the words "for more than 10 years" there should be substituted the words "prior to 12th June 2015";
  4. the heading and associated definition of "New/recent encroachments" should be deleted;
  5. the heading and associated definition of "Title encroachments" should be deleted;

on Page 4 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "Categories of foreshore encroachment" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 5 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "Preamble: The principles of the policies" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 5 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "The Public's landside ownership of the foreshore" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 7 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "Jersey Property Holdings" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 8 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition, after the heading "Policies:" for the remaining text there should be substituted the following –

"Encroachments occurring after the date upon which the States approved this policy document will be required to be removed and the foreshore restored to its prior state at the cost of the encroaching party.

Encroachments occurring prior to the date upon which the States approved this policy document, but after 12th June 2015, will be dealt with as follows –

  1. Minor encroachments will be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as the Minister may specify in a licence agreement.
  2. Interfering encroachments will be required to be removed and the foreshore restored to its prior state at the cost of the encroaching party.
  3. Non-interfering encroachments, which are not minor encroachments, may at the discretion of the Minister be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as he may specify in a licence agreement, including the payment of reasonable compensation.

Encroachments which have occurred prior to 12th June 2015 (historic encroachments) will be dealt with as follows –

  1. Minor encroachments will be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as the Minister may specify in a licence agreement.
  2. Interfering encroachments may be required to be removed and the encroaching party may be required, depending on the particular circumstances of the case (including the length of time that the encroachment has existed), to contribute appropriately to the cost of such removal.
  3. Non-interfering encroachments, which are not minor encroachments, will be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as the minister may specify in a licence agreement.

Notwithstanding the above policies, if an encroachment at any time affects any duty of the Minister to repair or improve flood defences pursuant to the Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005, he may deal with the matter as he thinks fit."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 41 CONTRE: 2 ABSTAIN: 0

Senator L.J. Farnham Senator S.C Ferguson Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré Senator T.A. Vallois Senator K.L. Moore Senator S.W. Pallett Senator S.Y. Mézec


Deputy K.C. Lewis (S) Deputy of Trinity

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Saviour Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. John Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Martin Deputy G.P. Southern (H) Deputy of Grouville

Deputy M. Tadier (B) Deputy M.R. Higgins (H) Deputy J.M. Maçon (S) Deputy of St. Martin Deputy of St. Ouen

Deputy R. Labey (H) Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H) Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B) Deputy J.H. Young (B) Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C) Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Deputy of St. Peter

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H) Deputy S.M. Ahier (H) Deputy R.J. Ward (H) Deputy C.S. Alves (H) Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S) Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

The Bailiff informed the Assembly that, following the adoption of the amendment of the Deputy of Grouville , as amended, the amendment of the Minister for Infrastructure (P.111/2020 Amd.(2)) was deemed to have been withdrawn.

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Minister for Infrastructure, as amended, and, adopting the proposition

  1. approved a revised policy for encroachments on the foreshore, as set out in the Appendix to the report accompanying this proposition, except that –

on Page 2 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition, in the section entitled definitions' –

  1. the heading and associated definition of "Default boundary line" should be deleted;
  2. the heading and associated definition of "Fair and Proper Price " should be deleted;
  3. within the definition of "Historic encroachments" for the words "for more than 10 years" there should be substituted the words "prior to 12th June 2015";
  4. the heading and associated definition of "New/recent encroachments" should be deleted;
  5. the heading and associated definition of "Title encroachments" should be deleted;

on Page 4 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "Categories of foreshore encroachment" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 5 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "Preamble: The principles of the policies" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 5 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "The Public's landside ownership of the foreshore" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 7 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition the paragraph entitled "Jersey Property Holdings" should be deleted entirely;

on Page 8 of the Appendix to the report accompanying the proposition, after the heading "Policies:" for the remaining text there should be substituted the following –

"Encroachments  occurring  after  the  date  upon  which  the  States  approved  this  policy document will be required to be removed and the foreshore restored to its prior state at the cost of the encroaching party.

Encroachments occurring prior to the date upon which the States approved this policy document, but after 12th June 2015, will be dealt with as follows –

  1. Minor encroachments will be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as the Minister may specify in a licence agreement.
  2. Interfering encroachments will be required to be removed and the foreshore restored to its prior state at the cost of the encroaching party.
  3. Non-interfering  encroachments,  which  are  not  minor  encroachments,  may  at  the discretion of the Minister be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as  he  may  specify  in  a  licence  agreement,  including  the  payment  of  reasonable compensation.

Encroachments which have occurred prior to 12th June 2015 (historic encroachments) will be dealt with as follows –

  1. Minor encroachments will be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as the Minister may specify in a licence agreement.
  2. Interfering encroachments may be required to be removed and the encroaching party may be required, depending on the particular circumstances of the case (including the length of time that the encroachment has existed), to contribute appropriately to the cost of such removal.
  3. Non-interfering encroachments, which are not minor encroachments, will be permitted to remain subject to such reasonable conditions as the minister may specify in a licence agreement.

Notwithstanding the above policies, if an encroachment at any time affects any duty of the Minister to repair or improve flood defences pursuant to the Drainage (Jersey) Law 2005, he may deal with the matter as he thinks fit."; and

  1. requested the Minister for Infrastructure to report back to the Scrutiny Panel with his proposals for setting out, in a map or plan, the public boundary

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 37  CONTRE: 7  ABSTAIN: 0 Senator L.J. Farnham  Senator J.A.N. Le Fondré

Senator S.C Ferguson   Connétable of St. Mary Senator T.A. Vallois   Connétable of St. Ouen Senator K.L. Moore   Deputy J.A. Martin (H) Senator S.W. Pallett   Deputy of St. Ouen Senator S.Y. Mézec   Deputy K.F. Morel (L) Connétable of St. Helier   Deputy of St. Peter Connétable of St. Clement

Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of St. Saviour

Connétable of St. Brelade

Connétable of Grouville

Connétable of St. John

Connétable of St. Peter

Connétable of St. Martin

Deputy G.P. Southern (H)

Deputy of Grouville

Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)

Deputy M. Tadier (B)

Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)

Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet (S)

Deputy R. Labey (H)

Deputy S.M. Wickenden (H)

Deputy of St. Mary

Deputy G.J. Truscott (B)

Deputy J.H. Young (B)

Deputy L.B.E. Ash (C)

Deputy G.C.U. Guida (L)

Deputy of Trinity

Deputy of St. John

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat (H)

Deputy S.M. Ahier (H)

Deputy R.J. Ward (H)

Deputy C.S. Alves (H)

Deputy K.G. Pamplin (S)

Deputy I. Gardiner (H)

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(a), Senator Ian Joseph Gorst and Deputy Susan Jane Pinel of St. Clement declared an interest and withdrew from the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of the Minister for Infrastructure.

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106(1)(c), Senator John Alexander Nicholas Le Fondré, the Connétable of St. Brelade , the Connétable of Grouville and the Deputy of St. Ouen declared an interest that was not financial and remained in the Chamber for the duration of the debate on the proposition of the Minister for Infrastructure.

Migration Control Policy P.137/2020

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of the Chief Minister entitled Migration Control Policy' (P.137/2020) and, commencing consideration of an amendment of Deputy Jessica Harriet Perchard of St. Saviour (P.137/2020 Amd.(2)), commenced consideration of an amendment of the Chief Minister (P.137/2020 Amd.(2)Amd.).

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 70(1A), as Deputy Jessica Harriet Perchard of St. Saviour had been excused attendance from the States, Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour acted as rapporteur in relation to the amendment (P.137/2021 Amd.(2)) to the proposition of the Chief Minister.

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 3rd March 2021 to continue consideration of the proposition of the Chief Minister entitled Migration Control Policy' (P.137/2020), and the accompanying amendments, and the other outstanding items of public business listed for the meeting.

THE STATES rose at 5.28 p.m.

DR. M. EGAN Greffier of the States