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THE STATES assembled on Wednesday 14th June 2023, at 9.30 a.m. under

the Presidency of the Bailiff ,

Sir Timothy John Le Cocq .

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All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Connétable Deidre Wendy Mezbourian of St. Lawrence – excused attendance (arrived in the Chamber at 2.15 p.m.)

Deputy Geoffrey Peter Southern of St. Helier Central – en défaut

Deputy Carina Soares Alves of St. Helier Central – absent on States business

Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.50 a.m.) Deputy Sir Philip Martin Bailhache of St. Clement – excused attendance

Deputy Thomas Antony Coles of St. Helier South – absent on States business

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Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – remote participation

THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central , agreed to consider his proposition entitled Provision of a free hopper bus service for Active card holders to Springfield stadium' (P.33/2023) before the proposition of Deputy Max Brennan Andrews of St. Helier North entitled Breakdown of Gender Pay' (P.31/2023).

Health and Community Services Interim Board P.19/2023

THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of the Minister for Health and Social Services entitled Health and Community Services Interim Board' (P.19/2023), as amended, and, adopting the proposition, as amended, agreed –

that the Minister for Health and Social Services should establish an interim non-statutory Health and Community Services Advisory Board providing for improved governance and oversight of the Health and Community Services Department; and
the proposed terms of reference to which that interim Board would function, as set out in Appendix 1 to the report accompanying the proposition, except that within Appendix 1 –

all references to a "3-year period" should be substituted with "18-month period";

in the title of the Appendix, the reference to Interim Board" should be substituted with "Advisory Board";
in paragraph 1, the reference to the "Health and Community Services Board" should be substituted with "Health and Community Services Advisory Board";

after paragraph 11, the following new paragraph 12 should be inserted and the subsequent paragraphs renumbered accordingly –

"12. Amendments to the terms of reference could include providing for the Board to work

across other health and community services whether or not in Jersey if the Assembly were so minded.";

after the current final paragraph, there should be inserted a new paragraph as follows –

"23. The Board will meet every six months with the Council of Ministers to advise the

Council on:

key matters arising in the Department including: challenges; risks; delivery of the Minister's plan, policies and directions, and compliance with decisions of the Assembly; and
the activities of the Board.

The requirement to meet every six months will not preclude the Board, or the Chair, meeting with the Council of Ministers at any other point if deemed appropriate by the Chief Minister, the Minister and the Chair.";

within point 53(b) the words "two years" should be substituted with "18 months"; and
within point 92 the words "3 to 5 years" should be substituted with "18 months"".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28 CONTRE: 16 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy H.L. Jeune

Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy S.G. Luce Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy B. Ward

Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

States Members' clothing

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of Deputy Mary Rose Scott of St. Brelade, agreed that, notwithstanding the existing convention in respect of States Members' attire, male States members should be permitted to remove their jackets whilst in the States Chamber during the extant meeting in light of the extremely high temperature in the Chamber.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 29 CONTRE: 13 ABSTAIN: 1 Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Clement

Deputy C.F. Labey Connétable of St. Brelade

Deputy M. Tadier Connétable of Trinity

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Connétable of St. Peter

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Connétable of St. John

Deputy S.M. Ahier Connétable of Grouville

Deputy R.J. Ward Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy I. Gardiner Connétable of St. Mary

Deputy L.J. Farnham Connétable of St. Saviour

Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy S.Y. Mézec Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy D.J. Warr Deputy M.B. Andrews

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson

Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson

Draft Stamp Duties and Fees (Amendment of Law – No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.22/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Stamp Duties and Fees (Amendment of Law – No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 and 2.

THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Stamp Duties and Fees (Amendment of Law – No. 6) (Jersey) Regulations 2022 under Article 3 of the Stamp Duties and Fees (Jersey) Law 1998.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Draft Domestic Abuse (Jersey) Law 2022 (Appointed Day) Act 202- P.23/2023

THE STATES made an Act entitled the Domestic Abuse (Jersey) Law 2022 (Appointed Day) Act 2022 under Article 19 of the Domestic Abuse (Jersey) Law 2022.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No.18) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.24/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No.18) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 44 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 4.

THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Social Security (Amendment of Law No.18) (Jersey) Regulations 2022 under Articles 50 and 51 of the Social Security (Jersey) Law 1974.

Draft Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 202- P.25/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 202- and adopted the principles.

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Regulations 1 to 10.

THE STATES made Regulations entitled the Limited Partnerships (Continuance) (Jersey) Regulations 2022 under the Order in Council dated 28th March 1771 and the Order in Council dated 14th April 1884.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 43 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Jersey Overseas Aid: Re-appointment of Commissioner P.26/2023

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Minister for International Development entitled Jersey Overseas Aid: Re-appointment of Commissioner' (P.26/2023), appointed Mr. Douglas Melville as a non- States Commissioner for a further period of 3 years, in accordance with clause 7.4 of the Constitution of the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission as set out in Schedule 1 to the Jersey Overseas Aid Commission (Jersey) Law 2005.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 36 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Draft F.B. Playing Fields (Jersey) Law 202- P.27/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of the Draft F.B. Playing Fields (Jersey) Law 202- and adopted the principles.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, having been informed that the relevant scrutiny panel had indicated that it did not wish to scrutinise the draft legislation, adopted Articles 1 to 8.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 42 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, subject to the sanction of His Most Excellent Majesty in Council, adopted a Law entitled the F.B. Playing Fields (Jersey) Law 202-.

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 106, Deputy Barbara Ward of St. Clement declared an interest in the subject of the Draft F.B. Playing Fields (Jersey) Law 202- in that she owned a property adjoining the F.B. Playing Fields.

Provision of a free hopper bus service for Active card holders to Springfield stadium P.33/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central entitled Provision of a free hopper bus service for Active card holders to Springfield stadium' (P.33/2023) and rejected the proposition to request the Minister for Infrastructure to instruct LibertyBus to enable free access with immediate effect to the Town Hopper bus for Active Card holders travelling to Springfield Gym and exercise facilities, for an initial trial period to 31st December 2023.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 19 CONTRE: 25 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Breakdown of Gender Pay P.31/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Max Brennan Andrews of St. Helier North entitled Breakdown of Gender Pay' (P.31/2023) and, adopting an amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.31/2023 Amd.), agreed that the existing paragraph should be designated as paragraph 1 and the following additional paragraph inserted –

"2 that the Council of Ministers should encourage all Arm's Length Organisations and Specified

Organisations (as defined in the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019) to publish their gender pay and income ratio information in a transparent manner as soon as practicable.".

THE STATES, adopting the proposition of Deputy Max Brennan Andrews of St. Helier North , as amended, agreed –

that the States Employment Board should publish annually –

a breakdown of gender pay relative to salary bands for each Government department, commencing January 2024;
a breakdown of gender pay for full-time and part-time Government employees, commencing January 2024; and
a report of the income ratio of the highest and lowest income earners within each Government department, commencing January 2024.

that the Council of Ministers should encourage all Arm's Length Organisations and Specified Organisations (as defined in the Public Finances (Jersey) Law 2019) to publish their gender pay and income ratio information in a transparent manner as soon as practicable.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 33 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Provision of carpets in Andium Homes properties P.34/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central entitled Provision of carpets in Andium Homes properties' (P.34/2023) and, adopting an amendment of the Minister for Social Security (P.34/2023 Amd.), agreed that –

in paragraph (a), the words "prior to the lodging of the next Government Plan" should be substituted with "between 1st July 2023 and 31st December 2023"; and sub-paragraph (a)(ii) should be deleted; and

in paragraph (b), after the words, "the Minister for Social Security" there should be inserted the words "and the Minister for Housing and Communities" and the words "Andium Homes" should be substituted with "all social housing providers".

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central , as amended, and adopting an amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier (P.34/2023 Amd.(2)), agreed that, after paragraph (b), there should be inserted a new paragraph (c) as follows –

"(c) to request the Minister for Social Security, on implementation of paragraph (a) (i), to ensure that

this provision is extended to those tenants who are currently in receipt of a loan from the States of Jersey for the same purpose.".

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central, as amended, and, adopting paragraph (a), requested the Minister for Social Security, between 1st July 2023 and 31st December 2023, to –

(i) implement provision of special payment grants to any Andium Homes tenants who required carpets in new rentals and who would otherwise be eligible for a loan from the States of Jersey for such purpose.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (b), requested the Minister for Treasury and Resources, in consultation with the Minister for Social Security and the Minister for Housing and Communities, to work with all social housing providers to review their policy relating to –

provision of flooring as standard in all properties; and
reuse of carpets after cleaning.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 45 CONTRE: 0 ABSTAIN: 0

Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy I. Gardiner

Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy S.Y. Mézec Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy M.R. Scott

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES rejected paragraph (c) to request the Minister for Social Security, on implementation of paragraph (a)(i), to ensure that this provision was extended to those tenants who ware currently in receipt of a loan from the States of Jersey for the same purpose.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 13 CONTRE: 31 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy I. Gardiner Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy D.J. Warr Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

The Grindadrap Festival in the Faroe Islands – condemnation of the hunting of sea mammals P.35/2023

THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter entitled The Grindadrap Festival in the Faroe Islands – condemnation of the hunting of sea mammals' (P.35/2023) and, adopting an amendment of Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter (P.35/2023), agreed that –

for the existing paragraph, there should be substituted the following –

"to object, in the strongest possible terms, to the Faroe Islands Government, about their Grindadrap hunts where whales, dolphins and porpoises are indiscriminately slaughtered, and to request the Chief Minister to communicate the view of the States Assembly to the United Kingdom Government and the Government of the Faroe Islands."; and

the existing paragraph should be designated as paragraph (a) and the following paragraphs inserted –

"(b) to request the Chief Minister to request that the UK Government expresses the view of the

States Assembly in its discussions with the Faroe Islands Government; and

(c) to request the Government of Jersey to continue to engage with the Faroe Islands Government on this matter as part of its wider programme of work to develop productive and constructive ties with fellow small-island communities.".

THE STATES resumed consideration of a proposition of Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter , as amended.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE STATES rejected a proposition of Deputy Stephen George Luce of Grouville and St. Martin to continue meeting that day until consideration of the proposition of Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter entitled The Grindadrap Festival in the Faroe Islands – condemnation of the hunting of sea mammals' (P.35/2023), as amended, had been completed.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 16 CONTRE: 28 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy M. Tadier

Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy M.R. Scott

Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy L.M.C. Doublet Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy I. Gardiner Deputy I.J. Gorst

STATES MINUTES

Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy B. Ward

14th June 2023

Deputy K.L. Moore

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy B.B.de S.V.M. Porée Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles

Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune

Deputy M.E. Millar

Deputy M.R. Ferey

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson Deputy M.B. Andrews

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Thursday 15th June 2023 to continue consideration of the proposition of Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter entitled The Grindadrap Festival in the Faroe Islands – condemnation of the hunting of sea mammals' (P.35/2023), as amended.

THE STATES rose at 5.33 p.m.

L.-M. HART Greffier of the States