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States Minutes 22nd November 2022

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THE STATES assembled on Tuesday 22nd November 2022, at 9.30 a.m. under the Presidency of

Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Greffier of the States.  __________________

All members were present at roll call with the exception of –

Deputy Montfort Tadier of St. Brelade – ill

Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet of St. Saviour – ill

Deputy Lyndon John Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter – en défaut (défaut raised at 9.51 a.m.)  

 __________________

Prayers

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Standing Order 55A – remote participation

THE STATES, with reference to their Act dated 14th September 2021, in which they had agreed that, notwithstanding Standing Order 55A(1), members who did not wish to attend in the States Chamber might continue to take part in States meetings using Microsoft Teams (until the States had considered and voted upon a proposition to re-apply Standing Order 55A(1) or to repeal or vary the terms of the Standing Order), assembled in accordance with Standing Order 55A with members able to participate remotely using Microsoft Teams.

Subordinate enactments tabled

The following enactments were tabled, namely –

Education (Grants and Allowances) (2022 Academic Year) (Jersey) Order 2022.  R&O.96/2022. Minister for Children and Education.

Animal Health (Importation of Pork and Porcine Products – Amendment) (Jersey) R&O.97/2022. Order 2022.

Minister for the Environment.

Nursing Homes (2023 Fees) (Jersey) Order 2022.  R&O.98/2022. Chief Minister.

Documents presented

Draft Children and Young People (Amendment) (Jersey) Law (P.96/2022): comments. P.96/2022. Presented:  3rd  November  2022,  Children,  Education  and  Home  Affairs  Scrutiny  Com. Panel.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): comments.  P.98/2022. Presented: 18th November 2022, Economic and International Affairs Scrutiny Panel.  Com.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): second amendment (P.98/2022 Amd.(2))   P.98/2022. comments.  Amd.(2). Presented: 18th November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Com. Common  Strategic  Policy  (P.98/2022):  fourth  amendment  (P.98/2022  Amd.(4))   P.98/2022. comments.  Amd.(4). Presented: 21st November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Com.

Cost of living crisis – Removal of 5% Goods and Services Tax (GST) from food P.100/2022. (excluding alcoholic drinks) (P.100/2022): comments.  Com. Presented: 17th November 2022, Council of Ministers

States Employment Board – Annual Reporting (P.107/2022): comments.  P.107/2022. Presented: 18th November 2022, States Employment Board.  Com.

Governance of the States of Jersey Police (follow-up) (R.59/2022): executive response R.59/2022. (R.59/2022 res.) – comments.  Res.Com. Presented: 9th November 2022, Public Accounts Committee.

Governance  and  decision  making  during  the  Covid-19  pandemic  (R.70/2022): R.70/2022. executive response (R.70/2022 res.) – comments.  Res.Com. Presented: 9th November 2022, Public Accounts Committee.

States Employment Board (follow-up) (R.152/2022): executive response  R.152/2022. Presented: 9th November 2022, Public Accounts Committee.  Res.

LGA and NFCC Bespoke Peer Challenge: States of Jersey Fire and Rescue Service  R.155/2022. Presented: 3rd November 2022, Minister for Home Affairs.

Independent Review of the States of Jersey Ambulance Service  R.156/2022. Presented: 3rd November 2022, Minister for Home Affairs.

Annual Reporting  R.157/2022. Presented: 10th November 2022, Comptroller and Auditor General.

Good practice guide to Annual Reporting  R.158/2022. Presented: 10th November 2022, Comptroller and Auditor General.

Land Transactions under Standing Order 168(3) – Multiple Transactions November  R.159/2022. 2022

Presented: 21st November 2022, Minister for Infrastructure.

Common Policy for External Relations.  R.160/2022. Presented:  22nd  November  2022,  Minister  for  External  Relations  and  Financial

Services.

Notification of lodged propositions

Proposed Government Plan 2023-2026 (P.97/2022): amendment.  P.97/2022. Tobacco  Amd. Lodged: 15th November 2022, Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North.

Proposed Government Plan 2023-2026 (P.97/2022): second amendment.  P.97/2022. Stamp Duty of buy to let investments, second homes and holiday homes  Amd.(2). Lodged: 21st November 2022, Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North.

Proposed Government Plan 2023-2026 (P.97/2022): third amendment.  P.97/2022. Stamp Duty  Amd.(3). Lodged: 21st November 2022, Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour .

Proposed Government Plan 2023-2026 (P.97/2022): fourth amendment. HIF Transfers

Lodged: 21st November 2022, Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): amendment. Lodged: 4th November 2022, Connétable of St. Helier .


P.97/2022. Amd.(4).

P.98/2022. Amd.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): amendment (P.98/2022 Amd.) – amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 15th November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Amd.Amd.

(re-issue).

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): second amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 4th November 2022, Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South .  Amd.(2).

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): third amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 7th November 2022, Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel.  Amd.(3).

Common  Strategic  Policy  (P.98/2022):  third  amendment  (P.98/2022  Amd.(3))   P.98/2022. amendment.  Amd.(3). Lodged: 15th November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Amd.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): fourth amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 8th November 2022, Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central .  Amd.(4).

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): fifth amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 8th November 2022, Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central .  Amd.(5).

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): fifth amendment (P.98/2022 Amd.(5).Amd.) – P.98/2022. amendment.  Amd.(5). Lodged: 18th November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Amd.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): sixth amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 8th November 2022, Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South .  Amd.(6).

Common  Strategic  Policy  (P.98/2022):  sixth  amendment  (P.98/2022  Amd.(6))   P.98/2022. amendment.  Amd.(6). Lodged: 15th November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Amd.

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): seventh amendment.  P.98/2022. Lodged: 8th November 2022, Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central .  Amd.(7).

Common Strategic Policy (P.98/2022): seventh amendment (P.98/2022 Amd.(7)) P.98/2022. amendment.  Amd.(7). Lodged: 15th November 2022, Council of Ministers.  Amd.

Draft Finance (2023 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202-. (P.102/2022): amendment.  P.102/2022. Lodged: 15th November 2022, Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North.  Amd.

Draft Finance (2023 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202-. (P.102/2022): second amendment.  P.102/2022. Lodged: 21st November 2022, Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North.  Amd.(2).

Draft Finance (2023 Budget) (Jersey) Law 202-. (P.102/2022): third amendment.  P.102/2022. Lodged: 21st November 2022, Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour .  Amd.(3).

States Employment Board – Annual Reporting.  P.107/2022. Lodged: 1st November 2022, Deputy M.B. Andrews of St. Helier North .

Re-instatement of Senators.  P.108/2022. Lodged: 14th November 2022, Deputy I.J. Gorst of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter .

Re-instatement of Senators (P.108/2022): amendment.  P.108/2022. Lodged: 14th November 2022, Deputy K.F. Morel of St. John , St. Lawrence and  Amd. Trinity .

Re-instatement of Senators (P.108/2022): second amendment.  P.108/2022. Lodged: 14th November 2022, Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade .  Amd.(2).

Our Hospital Project: Reporting.  P.109/2022. Lodged: 16th November 2022, Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St.

Peter.

Draft Social Security (Amendment of Law No. 17) (Jersey) Regulations 202-.  P.110/2022. Lodged: 18th November 2022, Minister for Social Security.

Draft Health Insurance Fund (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Amendment No.4) (Jersey)  P.111/2022. Law 202-.

Lodged: 22nd November 2022, Minister for Social Security.

Withdrawal of lodged propositions

THE STATES noted that, in accordance with Standing Order 34(1), the proposers of the following propositions lodged "au Greffe" had informed the Greffier of the States that they had been withdrawn –

Re-instatement of Senators.  P.79/2022. Lodged: 27th June 2022, Deputy I.J. Gorst of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter .  (re-issue)

Re-instatement of Senators (P.79/2022): amendment.  P.79/2022. Lodged: 22nd September 2022, Deputy K.F. Morel of St. John , St. Lawrence and  Amd. Trinity .

Re-instatement of Senators (P.79/2022): second amendment.  P.79/2022. Lodged: 1st November 2022, Deputy M.R. Scott of St. Brelade .  Amd.(2)

Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel – appointment of member

In accordance with Standing Order 125(7) the Chair of the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel indicated that he wished to  increase the size of the  Panel to 5 members, including the chair, and nominated Deputy Andrea Howell of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity as a member of the Panel.

There being no other nominations, the Presiding Officer declared that Deputy Andrea Howell of St. John , St. Lawrence and Trinity had been duly appointed as a member of the Health and Social Security Scrutiny Panel.

Written Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

WQ.252/2022 1.  The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 7th November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding an enhanced data series to assess the labour force participation rate.

WQ.253/2022 2. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 7th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding the 2020 tax return. WQ.254/2022 3. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 7th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding rental income paid to

landlords by tenants without Entitled' residential status.

WQ.256/2022 4. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer

on 7th November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding Jersey's aircraft registry.

WQ.257/2022 5. The Minister for Housing and Communities had tabled an answer on 7th November 2022 to

a question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding analyses from the last 5 years of current unmet housing need.

WQ.258/2022 6. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer

on 7th November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the Retained E.U. Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill.

WQ.259/2022 7. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding any outstanding legislative work in relation to speed cameras.

WQ.260/2022 8. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding the prospect of a concurrent payment of Home Carer's Allowance to individuals who were also in receipt of a States pension.

WQ.261/2022 9. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding locum staff. WQ.262/2022 10. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding objectives from the

report, Prevention of Suicide in Jersey: A Framework for Action 2015-2020'.

WQ.263/2022 11. The Chair of the Comité des Connétable s had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to

a question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding the payment of Parish Rates.

WQ.264/2022 12. The Minister for Housing and Communities had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding residential properties for purchase in Jersey.

WQ.265/2022 13. The Minister for the Environment had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding planning permission for

Fields 378 and 379, Rue à la Dame and Le Bassacre du Milieu and du Nord in St. Saviour . WQ.266/2022 14. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the Income Support

Scheme.

WQ.267/2022 15. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding waiting lists for ophthalmic interventions.

WQ.268/2022 16. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding the Digital Care Strategy.

WQ.269/2022 17. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding the response to Written Question 247/2022.

WQ.270/2022 18. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a question asked by

Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding the digital registration of all properties. WQ.271/2022 19. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding active travel projects.

WQ.272/2022 20. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier Central regarding test result times at the sexual health (GUM (genitourinary medicine)) clinic.

WQ.273/2022 21. The Minister for Children and Education had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier Central regarding the Retraining Strategy.

WQ.274/2022 22. The Minister for Children and Education had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy C.S. Alves of St. Helier Central regarding the Post-16 Strategy for Jersey.

WQ.275/2022 23. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a question asked by

Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding the Jersey Performance Framework and the Common Strategic Policy.

WQ.276/2022 24. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a question asked by

Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding applications under Regulation 2(1)(e) of the Control of Housing and Work (Residential and Employment Status) (Jersey) Regulation 2013.

WQ.277/2022 25. The Minister for External Relations and Financial Services had tabled an answer on 14th

November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding overseas visits he had attended.

WQ.278/2022 26. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding rising interest rates. WQ.279/2022 27. The Minister for Housing and Communities had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding applications to

the Affordable Housing Gateway.

WQ.280/2022 28. The Minister for Housing and Communities had tabled an answer on 14th November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding data in respect of the Affordable Housing Gateway.

WQ.281/2022 29. The Minister for Home Affairs had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding United Kingdom Police Officers recruited to the States of Jersey Police.

WQ.282/2022 30. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding the personal income tax paid by the top 5% of taxpayers.

WQ.283/2022 31. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North regarding staff who had

been recruited from overseas to work in the Health and Community Services Department. WQ.284/2022 32. The Chair of the Comité des Connétable s had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding

the payment of allowances, or expenses, to Connétable s.

WQ.285/2022 33. The Chair of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (Jersey Branch) Executive

Committee had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson of St. Mary, St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding the cost of States Members' attendance at Commonwealth Parliamentary Association events.

WQ.286/2022 34. The President of the Assemblée Parlementaire de la Francophonie Jersey Branch (Executive

Committee) had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson of St. Mary, St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding the cost of States Members' attendance at Assemblée Parlementaire de la Francophonie events.

WQ.287/2022 35. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding estimates of the anticipated

maintenance and repair costs for the General Hospital at the Gloucester Street site. WQ.288/2022 36. The Minister for Social Security had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central regarding measures under

consideration for the Health Access Scheme.

WQ.289/2022 37. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding the Our Hospital Site Shortlisting Report.

WQ.290/2022 38. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South regarding the money borrowed through the Revolving Credit Facility.

WQ.291/2022 39. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding patient travel for medical treatment off-Island.

WQ.292/2022 40. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding bonds and borrowing for the new hospital.

WQ.293/2022 41. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central regarding the capacity of the Department of Health and Community Services to staff a multi-site hospital

WQ.294/2022 42. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding online access to the Our Hospital Project.

WQ.295/2022 43. The Chief Minister had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question asked by

Deputy L.J. Farnham of St. Mary , St. Ouen and St. Peter regarding the transfer of legal responsibility for Financial Services from the Minister for External Relations and Financial Services to the Minister for Treasury and Resources.

WQ.296/2022 44. The Minister for Treasury and Resources had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy R.S. Kovacs of St. Saviour regarding the revenue gained through International Services Entities fees.

WQ.297/2022 45. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat of St. Helier North regarding the £500,000 allocated to the Head of Expenditure for Health and Community Services.

WQ.298/2022 46. The Minister for Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture had tabled an answer

on 21st November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat of St. Helier North regarding Agricultural Loans.

WQ.299/2022 47. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat of St. Helier North regarding the redevelopment of Clinique Pinel.

WQ.300/2022 48. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding the Our Hospital project. WQ.301/2022 49. The Minister for Health and Social Services had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022

to a question asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding clinical risk

assessments in the latest review of the Our Hospital project.

WQ.302/2022 50. The Minister for Infrastructure had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a question

asked by Deputy L.V. Feltham of St. Helier Central regarding traffic modelling in relation to a multi-site hospital.

WQ.303/2022 51. The Minister for the Environment  had tabled an answer on 21st November 2022 to a

question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding inspections of rental properties.

WQ.304/2022 52. The Chair of the Privileges and Procedures Committee  had tabled an answer on 21st

November 2022 to a question asked by Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South regarding the recommendations made by the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association Election Observation Mission in 2018.

Oral Questions

(see Official Report/Hansard)

OQ.123/2022  1.   Deputy B.B. de S.DV.M. Porée of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for

Social Security regarding the Cold Weather Bonus.  

OQ.119/2022  2.   Deputy T.A. Coles of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for Social Security

regarding Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) legislation.  

OQ.116/2022  3.   Deputy S.Y. Mézec of St. Helier South asked a question of H.M. Attorney General

regarding the efforts taken to ensure officers within the Law Officers' Department abided by the Rule of Law.  

OQ.121/2022  4.   Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the waiting time for ophthalmic interventions.  

OQ.114/2022  5.   Deputy  R.J.   Ward  of  St.  Helier  Central  asked  a  question  of  the  Minister  for  the

Environment regarding the funding of electric bike schemes.  

OQ.113/2022  6.   Deputy M.B. Andrews of St Helier North asked a question of the Minister for Housing and

Communities regarding the Digital Register of all Property.  

OQ.120/2022  7.   Deputy  L.V.   Feltham  of  St.  Helier  Central  asked  a  question  of  the  Minister  for

Infrastructure regarding the funding of the Road Safety Strategy.  

OQ.115/2022  8.   Deputy R.J. Ward of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Children and

Education regarding the impact of the recent closure of a private nursery provider.  OQ.122/2022  9.   Deputy G.P. Southern of St. Helier Central asked a question of the Minister for Social

Security regarding Income Support Special Payments.  

OQ.117/2022  10.   Deputy  S.Y.   Mézec  of  St.  Helier  South  asked  a  question  of  H.M.  Attorney  General

regarding the payment of compensation to people who had faced actions deemed to be unlawful.  

OQ.124/2022  11.   Deputy B.B. de S.DV.M. Porée of St. Helier South asked a question of the Minister for

Economic Development, Tourism, Sport and Culture regarding the support provided by the Government to small businesses.  

Oral Questions without notice (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for Treasury and Resources answered questions without notice from members. The Minister for Children and Education answered questions without notice from members. The Chief Minister answered questions without notice from members.

Statements on a matter of official responsibility (see Official Report/Hansard)

The Minister for External Relations and Financial Services made a statement regarding the updated Common Policy for External Relations.

Arrangement of public business for the present meeting

THE  STATES,  adopting  a  proposition  of  the  Minister  for  Housing  and  Communities,  agreed,  in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period of his proposition entitled Rent Control Tribunal: Chair and Member nominations' (P.106/2022) in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 28  CONTRE: 18  ABSTAIN: 0 Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence

Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy I. Gardiner (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy R.E. Binet Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson


Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy L.J. Farnham

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy A.F. Curtis

Deputy M.B. Andrews

THE STATES, adopting a proposition of the Chief Minister, agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 26(7), to reduce the minimum lodging period of the amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.98/2022 Amd.(5)Amd.) to the amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central (P.98/2022 Amd.(5)) to the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Common Strategic Policy' (P.98/2022) in order that it might be debated at the present meeting.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 27 CONTRE: 18 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy I. Gardiner (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy R.E. Binet


Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Ouen Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy L.J. Farnham

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham

Deputy R.S. Kovacs

Deputy M.B. Andrews

Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson

Changes in Presidency

Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Greffier of the States, retired from the Chair during consideration of the arrangement of public business for the present meeting and the meeting resumed following the lunch adjournment under the Presidency of the Bailiff .

Suspension of meeting

The Bailiff , during consideration of the arrangement of public business for the present meeting, suspended the meeting for a few minutes, in accordance with Standing Order 46, in order to allow time for a problem with the electronic voting system to be resolved.

Common Strategic Policy P.98/2022

THE STATES, commencing consideration of a proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Common Strategic Policy' (P.98/2022), commenced consideration of an amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier (P.98/2022 Amd.) and, adopting an amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.98/2022 Amd.Amd.), agreed that –

in Part 1, sub-paragraph (i), for the words "and natural" there should be substituted the words ", rural and marine";

in Part 2, for the words to be inserted, there should be substituted the following words –

", except that on page 6 of the report in the "A commitment to partnership" section, after the words "with the" there should be inserted the words "Parishes,";

in Part 3, for the words "amenity space" there should be substituted the words "open space"; and

in Part 6, sub-paragraph (i), for the new paragraph to be inserted, there should be substituted the following paragraph –

"By working together with the Parishes, we will provide safe, and where achievable segregated, routes for walkers and cyclists by reallocating road space around the Island and within the Town area to encourage active travel."

THE STATES, adopting the amendment of the Connétable of St. Helier , as amended, agreed that, after the words "report of this Proposition", there should be inserted the words ", except that –

on page 5 of the report, in the "Environment" section –

  1. before the  word "environment" there  should be inserted the  words "urban, rural and marine"; and
  1. after the word "purposefully" there should be inserted the words "and fairly.";

on page 6 of the report, in the "A commitment to partnership" section after the word "with the" there should be inserted the words "parishes,";

on page 7 of the report, in the "Quality of Life section, after the word "housing" there should be inserted the words "open space";

on page 13, Annex 1, in the "Children and Families" section, after the third paragraph there should be inserted a new paragraph as follows –

"We will provide safe walking and cycling facilities to allow children to walk and cycle to school, thereby increasing their health, fitness and independent mobility and reducing the impact of the school run' on the environment.";

on page 14, Annex 1 –

  1. in the "Ageing Population" section after the fourth paragraph, there should be inserted a new paragraph as follows –

"We will provide safe walking and other transport options for the elderly and encourage the improvement and expansion of parks and gardens, especially in urban areas."; and

  1. in the "Health and Wellbeing" section after the fifth paragraph, there should be inserted a new paragraph as follows –

"We will encourage the improvement and expansion of parks and children's play facilities, especially in urban areas. We will increase our investment in the public realm."; and

on page 15, Annex 1, in the "Environment" section –

  1. after the third paragraph, there should be inserted a new paragraph as follows –

"By working together with the Parishes, we will provide safe, and where achievable segregated, routes for walkers and cyclists by reallocating road space around the Island and within the Town area to encourage active travel."; and

  1. in the penultimate paragraph after the word "infrastructure" there should be inserted the words "including tree planting and the provision of green spaces,".

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, commenced consideration of an amendment of the Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel (P.98/2022 Amd.(3)) and, adopting an amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.98/2022 Amd.(3)Amd.), agreed that, after the words "free", there should be inserted the words "or lower cost" and that, after the words "in Jersey", there should be inserted the words ", and to reducing other barriers to children accessing primary care, as part of the ongoing review of the Island's overall health and care system and its sustainable funding".

THE STATES, adopting the amendment of the Children, Education and Home Affairs Scrutiny Panel, as amended, agreed that, after the words "report of this Proposition", there should be inserted the words ", except that, on page 13, paragraph 6, before the words "We will invest also" there should be inserted the words –

"We will work towards providing free or lower cost primary healthcare for all children in Jersey, and to reducing other barriers to children accessing primary care, as part of the ongoing review of the Island's overall health and care system and its sustainable funding."

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central (P.98/2022  Amd.(7))  and,  adopting  an  amendment  of  the  Council  of  Ministers (P.98/2022 Amd.(7)Amd.), agreed that, for the word "ensure", there should be substituted the words "continue to work towards ensuring".

THE STATES, adopting the amendment of Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central , as amended, agreed that, after the words "report of this Proposition" there should be inserted the words ", except that on page 15 of the report in the "Community" section, after the second paragraph there should be inserted the following new paragraph –

"We  will  continue  to  work  towards  ensuring  that  the  services  and  facilities  provided  by  the Government are accessible and that the government departments have access and inclusion plans in place so that all people are treated equitably.""

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, and, adopting an amendment of Deputy Lyndsay Victoria Feltham of St. Helier Central (P.98/2022 Amd.(4)), agreed that, after the words "report of this Proposition", there should be inserted the words –

",  except  that,  noting  the  aspects  important  to  Islanders  as  indicated  by  the  Future  Jersey consultation, on page 17 of the report, the words The table over the page presents some of the key indicators we will use" should be substituted with the following –

"The Council of Ministers will continue to strive to achieve the long-term vision of Future Jersey and work towards delivering the ten desired community outcomes arising from it:

Future Jersey Vision: "An Island loved for its beautiful coast and countryside, rich heritage, diverse wildlife and clean air, land and water. An Island where a sense of community really matters - a safe place to grow up and enjoy life. An Island that offers everyone the opportunity to contribute to, and share in, the success of a strong, sustainable economy.

 

Wellbeing section

Outcome

Community wellbeing

Children enjoy the best start in life

Islanders enjoy long, healthy, active lives

Islanders feel safe and protected at home, work and in public

Islanders  enjoy  living  in  a  vibrant  and inclusive community

Economic wellbeing

Islanders are able to afford a decent standard of living

 

Islanders benefit from a strong economy and rewarding job opportunities

Jersey is an attractive place to do business

Environmental wellbeing

Jersey's  built  and  historic  environment  is valued and enjoyed

Jersey's  unique  natural  environment  is protected for future generations

Jersey's natural resources are managed and used responsibly

We will show our progress using the storyboards and related indicators set out within the Jersey Performance Framework. We will improve the relevance and presentation of the indicators within the Framework to improve their use.

 

Wellbeing section

Sub-section

Storyboard

Community wellbeing

Children

All  children  in  Jersey  have the best start in life

All  children  in  Jersey  live healthy lives

All  children  in  Jersey  learn and achieve

All children in Jersey grow up safely

All  children  in  Jersey  are valued and involved

Health  and wellbeing

Islanders benefit from healthy lifestyles

Islanders are protected against social  and  environmental health hazards

Islanders  can  access  high quality,  effective  health services

Islanders  with  long-term health  conditions  enjoy  a good quality of life

Mental health and wellbeing are fundamental to quality of life in Jersey

Safety  and security

Islanders  are  safe  and protected at home, work and in public

Vibrant  and inclusive community

Islanders  enjoy  living  in  a vibrant  and  inclusive community

 

 

Islanders engage in the public decisions  that  affect  their Island

Economic wellbeing

Affordable living

Islanders are able to afford a decent standard of living

Jobs  and growth

Islanders  benefit  from  a strong,  sustainable  economy and  rewarding  job opportunities

Environmental wellbeing

Built environment

St Helier is an attractive town to live in, work in and visit

Islanders  live  in  secure, quality  homes  that  they  can afford

Jersey  benefits  from  a  safe, sustainable transport system

Natural environment

Jersey's  unique  natural environment is protected and conserved  for  future generations

Sustainable resources

Jersey's natural resources are managed  and  used responsibly

The following table presents further key indicators that highlight the focus of the Common Strategic Policy."

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, and rejected an amendment of Deputy Thomas Antony Coles of St. Helier South (P.98/2022 Amd.(2)) that, after the words, "report of this Proposition" there should be inserted the words ", except that on page 8 of the report, all instances of the word "Customer" shall be substituted with the word "People"".

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 23  CONTRE: 24  ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of St. Ouen Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy S.G. Luce

Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy L.J. Farnham

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée


Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. John Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy K.F. Morel

Deputy S.M. Ahier

Deputy I. Gardiner (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst

Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy C.D . Curtis Deputy L.V. Feltham Deputy A. Howell Deputy R.S. Kovacs Deputy B. Ward Deputy M.B. Andrews


Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South (P.98/2022 Amd.(6)), and, adopting an amendment of the Council of Ministers (P.98/2022 Amd.(6)Amd.), agreed that –

in Part 1, for sub-paragraphs (ii) to (v), there should be substituted the following sub-paragraph –

"(ii) after the final paragraph there should be inserted the following sentence –

"We will do this through coordinated and sustained action that tackles the cost of living and housing crisis, in line with clear commitments made in the Council of Minister's Ministerial Plans and responding effectively to the changing economic environment.".";

in Part 2, for the proposed sub-paragraph (i), there should be substituted the following sub- paragraph –

"(i) in the Continue to improve' section of the table for Housing and Cost of Living, there

should be inserted the words "increase the number and standard of private rental homes with Rent Safe accreditation"."; and

in Part 2, in the proposed sub-paragraph (ii), for the second, third and fourth bullet points, there should be substituted the following bullet points –

"- increase the number of long-term vacant homes brought back into use;

- increase the number of first-time buyer homes; and

- increase the number of people housed through the Affordable Housing Gateway."

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 35 CONTRE: 12 ABSTAIN: 0

Connétable of St. Helier Connétable of St. Brelade Connétable of Trinity Connétable of St. Peter Connétable of St. Martin Connétable of St. John Connétable of St. Clement Connétable of Grouville Connétable of St. Mary Connétable of St. Saviour Deputy C.F. Labey Deputy S.G. Luce Deputy K.F. Morel Deputy S.M. Ahier Deputy I. Gardiner (H) Deputy I.J. Gorst


Deputy G.P. Southern Deputy M.R. Le Hegarat Deputy R.J. Ward

Deputy C.S. Alves

Deputy S.Y. Mézec

Deputy T.A. Coles

Deputy B.B. de S.V.M. Porée Deputy C.D . Curtis

Deputy L.V. Feltham

Deputy R.S. Kovacs Connétable of St. Lawrence Connétable of St. Ouen

Deputy L.J. Farnham Deputy K.L. Moore Deputy P.F.C. Ozouf Deputy Sir P.M. Bailhache Deputy D.J. Warr

Deputy H.M. Miles Deputy M.R. Scott Deputy J. Renouf

Deputy R.E. Binet

Deputy H.L. Jeune Deputy M.E. Millar Deputy A. Howell

Deputy T.J.A. Binet Deputy M.R. Ferey Deputy A.F. Curtis Deputy B. Ward

Deputy K.M. Wilson Deputy M.B. Andrews Deputy L.K.F. Stephenson

THE STATES, adopting the amendment of Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South , as amended, agreed that, after the words "report of this Proposition", there should be inserted the words ", except that –

on page 11 of the report –

  1. in the third paragraph, the words "Housing matters" should be substituted with the words "Jersey has a housing crisis";
  2. after the final paragraph there should be inserted the following sentence –

"We will do this through coordinated and sustained action that tackles the cost of living and housing crisis, in line with clear commitments made in the Council of Minister's Ministerial Plans and responding effectively to the changing economic environment."; and

on page 18 of the report –

  1. in the Continue to improve' section of the table for Housing and Cost of Living, there should be inserted the words "increase the number and standard of private rental homes with Rent Safe accreditation"; and
  2. in the Turn the curve' section of the table for Housing and Cost of Living, after the words "housing that is affordable" there should be inserted the following words –

"- Decrease the proportion of renters classed as living in rental stress';

- increase the number of long-term vacant homes brought back into use;

- increase the number of first-time buyer homes; and

- increase the number of people housed through the Affordable Housing Gateway."".

THE STATES, resuming consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers, as amended, commenced consideration of an amendment of Deputy Robert James Ward of St. Helier Central (P.98/2022 Amd.(5)).

Changes in Presidency

The Bailiff retired from the Chair during consideration of the amendment of Deputy Samuel Yves Mézec of St. Helier South (P.98/2022 Amd.(6)) to the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Common Strategic Policy' (P.98/2022) and the meeting continued under the Presidency of Mrs. Lisa-Marie Hart , Greffier of the States. The Bailiff returned to the Chamber during consideration of the same amendment and the meeting continued under his Presidency.

Adjournment

THE STATES adjourned, having agreed to reconvene on Wednesday 23rd November 2022 to continue consideration of the proposition of the Council of Ministers entitled Common Strategic Policy' (P.98/2022), as amended, the accompanying amendments and the other outstanding items of public business listed for the meeting.

THE STATES rose at 5.25 p.m.

W.J.C. MILLOW Deputy Greffier of the States